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There are at least two kinds of sampling diodes used in classic Tek sampling gear.  The first are GaAs junction diodes.  The second are Schottky diodes.
There are at least two kinds of '''sampling diodes''' used in the [[Sampling gate|sampling gates]] of classic Tek gear, GaAs junction diodes and Schottky diodes.
It is easy for these diodes to get destroyed by ESD.  They are designed to have low capacitance, which means that a small amount of charge can produce a potentially damaging voltage across the diode.   
It is easy for these diodes to get destroyed by ESD.  They are designed to have low capacitance, which means that a small amount of charge can produce a potentially damaging voltage across the diode.   


If the output of a sampler has a large DC shift even with no input to the sampler (an external triggering), and does not respond to the DC offset control, it is possible that one or more sampling diodes could be damaged.
If the output of a sampler has a large DC shift even with no input to the sampler (an external triggering), and does not respond to the DC offset control, it is possible that one or more sampling diodes could be damaged.
The original diodes are no longer available.  When sampling diodes need replacement, there are two options.  They can be scavenged from other  
The original diodes are no longer available.  When sampling diodes need replacement, there are two options.  They can be scavenged from other  
gear or replacements can be improvised using modern parts.  HP makes integrated pairs of high-speed Schottky diodes. These are a decent replacement for the original diodes.
gear or replacements can be improvised using modern parts.  [[Hewlett-Packard|HP/Avago]] and now Broadcom makes integrated pairs and quads of high-speed Schottky diodes (e.g. HSMS-28xx series). These are a decent replacement for the original diodes.
 
* [[Media:Tek Schottky Diodes Memo rot.pdf|Tektronix Schottky diodes memo from 1979]]
 
== Possible modern substitutes ==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Type of Diode
! Tek sampler
! Measured rise time
! Remarks
|-
| HSMS2822  || [[4S1]]  || 320 ps  || better than specification and very smooth trace
|-
| HSMS2822  || [[S-2]]  || 120 ps  || didn't match original specification
|-
| MMDL301  || [[S-2]]  || 185 ps  || high blow-by, not recommended
|-
| BAT17-04W  || [[S-2]]  || 110 ps  || didn't match original specification, but very smooth trace
|-
| BAT15-04W  || [[S-2]]  ||  70 ps  || as specification , smooth trace
|-
| 5082-2835  || [[S-2]]  ||  130 ps  || didn't match original specification
|-
| BAT15-04W & BAT15-099  || [[S-6]]  ||  80 ps  || didn't match original specification
|-
 
|}
 
 
<gallery>
4S1_w_hsms2822_modified.JPG  |  4S1 Sampling diode replaced by Avago HSMS2822
S 2 w BAT15 04W.jpg | S-2 with BAT15-04
S_6_w_BAT15_04W.jpg | S-6 with BAT15-04W, glued on with Chinese conductive adhesive.
</gallery>




[[Category:Semiconductor diodes]]
[[Category:Semiconductor diodes]]
[[Category:Repair issues]]

Latest revision as of 08:18, 13 March 2022

There are at least two kinds of sampling diodes used in the sampling gates of classic Tek gear, GaAs junction diodes and Schottky diodes. It is easy for these diodes to get destroyed by ESD. They are designed to have low capacitance, which means that a small amount of charge can produce a potentially damaging voltage across the diode.

If the output of a sampler has a large DC shift even with no input to the sampler (an external triggering), and does not respond to the DC offset control, it is possible that one or more sampling diodes could be damaged.

The original diodes are no longer available. When sampling diodes need replacement, there are two options. They can be scavenged from other gear or replacements can be improvised using modern parts. HP/Avago and now Broadcom makes integrated pairs and quads of high-speed Schottky diodes (e.g. HSMS-28xx series). These are a decent replacement for the original diodes.

Possible modern substitutes

Type of Diode Tek sampler Measured rise time Remarks
HSMS2822 4S1 320 ps better than specification and very smooth trace
HSMS2822 S-2 120 ps didn't match original specification
MMDL301 S-2 185 ps high blow-by, not recommended
BAT17-04W S-2 110 ps didn't match original specification, but very smooth trace
BAT15-04W S-2 70 ps as specification , smooth trace
5082-2835 S-2 130 ps didn't match original specification
BAT15-04W & BAT15-099 S-6 80 ps didn't match original specification