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If the neon lamps fail, the CRT grid voltage will be affected.
If the neon lamps fail, the CRT grid voltage will be affected.


Another common use is for DC bias shifting, e.g. in 500-series timebase circuits.   
Another common use is for DC bias shifting, e.g. in 500-series timebase circuits.  In such circuits, a 56 V Zener diode may be a possible replacement for the neon.


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|align="center"| 0.6 mA
|align="center"| 0.6 mA
| short length, formed tip for end-on viewing, mild radioactive additive for the reduction of dark effect;  =~ modern type [https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/VCC/A2B?qs=%252BE2FUV3Ulmz0JmjQi2dc2Q%3D%3D A2B]
| short length, formed tip for end-on viewing; dark compensated;  =~ modern type [https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/VCC/A2B?qs=%252BE2FUV3Ulmz0JmjQi2dc2Q%3D%3D A2B]
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|align="center"| 59 V
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===Dark compensation===
Neon lamps require a higher voltage to ignite if operated in total dark, this is known as ''Dark effect''.
This was compensated in some types by a "mild radioactive additive" to help with ionization, typically a small amount of Krypton-85 (beta emitter, 10.8 years half life) added to the gas filling. 
After 50 years, radiation from this source will have reduced to ~3% of the intensity at new.  Modern NE-2 variants will likely not contain such an additive in the first place.


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Revision as of 04:03, 6 June 2023

Neon lamps are used for at least three different things in Tek instruments:

  1. Indicator lamps, e.g., for power, beam position, uncalibrated status, or a decimal point
  2. Voltage clamp, similar to how a zener diode is used
  3. In relaxation oscillators, e.g. in 7000-series power supplies
Broken lead (left) on neon in 585 time base

Neon lamps fail more than most other components. A common failure mode is for the leads to break off, often close to the glass bulb, due to corrosion and vibration. Another failure mode is for the I-V characteristic to drift.

Neon lamps are used as a voltage clamp in the CRT circuit for setting the CRT grid voltage in many Tek instruments. A typical example is seen in the 561A:

If the neon lamps fail, the CRT grid voltage will be affected.

Another common use is for DC bias shifting, e.g. in 500-series timebase circuits. In such circuits, a 56 V Zener diode may be a possible replacement for the neon.


When in doubt, replace the neon lamps. In a pinch, it may be possible to reattach broken leads after careful grinding of the glass.

See also

Types and data

Type Tek P/N Voltage Current Notes
Ignition Operating Nominal
NE-2 150-002 76 (60−90) V 58 V 0.3 mA =~ modern type A1A
NE-2V 150-030 76 (60−90) V 58 (46-78) V 0.6 mA short length, formed tip for end-on viewing; dark compensated; =~ modern type A2B
NE-23 150-027 74 (60−90) V 59 V 0.3 mA dark compensated

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Dark compensation

Neon lamps require a higher voltage to ignite if operated in total dark, this is known as Dark effect. This was compensated in some types by a "mild radioactive additive" to help with ionization, typically a small amount of Krypton-85 (beta emitter, 10.8 years half life) added to the gas filling.

After 50 years, radiation from this source will have reduced to ~3% of the intensity at new. Modern NE-2 variants will likely not contain such an additive in the first place.