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The original problem was with the storage display being blanked and not visible, the "new" board cured that issue.  When I installed the new board, in Non-Storage mode everything worked perfect, as before.  However, when I selected Storage mode, I saw a partial trace, but could not horizontally center the trace.  The storage trace was about 2/3 visible with the horizontal pot fully CCW and disappeared completely with the Horz. control centered.  In addition, the cursors were visible, but acted in a bizarre manner,  not adjusting fully to the entire range of the screen and crowded near the bottom of the display.  Basically, the storage display was shifted down and right and the cursors were forced to the bottom of that area. So the problem lay in the Storage Position portion of the circuit.  
The original problem was with the storage display being blanked and not visible, the "new" board cured that issue.  When I installed the new board, in Non-Storage mode everything worked perfect, as before.  However, when I selected Storage mode, I saw a partial trace, but could not horizontally center the trace.  The storage trace was about 2/3 visible with the horizontal pot fully CCW and disappeared completely with the Horz. control centered.  In addition, the cursors were visible, but acted in a bizarre manner,  not adjusting fully to the entire range of the screen and crowded near the bottom of the display.  Basically, the storage display was shifted down and right and the cursors were forced to the bottom of that area. So the problem lay in the Storage Position portion of the circuit.  


The Storage Display Troubleshooting chart contains a block that states "check U559-7 at 7.5V and U559-1 at -7.5V. . . . ".  indicating that U559 is designed to produce a +7.5V and -7.5V Reference voltage, however, on my unit, U559 was outputting a bit over 5V on the V Ref Pins.  This voltage is obviously critical to the storage display portion, the Reference voltage was low at all IC's across the entire A16 board.  Since I obtained this board from a known good, working scope, I found it hard to believe that U559 could be bad.  I concluded that there must be something external to A16 was causing the Reference voltage to be so low.
The Storage Display Troubleshooting chart contains a block that states "check U559-7 at 7.5 V and U559-1 at -7.5 V. . . . ".  indicating that U559 is designed to produce a +7.5 V and -7.5 V Reference voltage, however, on my unit, U559 was outputting a bit over 5 V on the V Ref Pins.  This voltage is obviously critical to the storage display portion, the Reference voltage was low at all IC's across the entire A16 board.  Since I obtained this board from a known good, working scope, I found it hard to believe that U559 could be bad.  I concluded that there must be something external to A16 was causing the Reference voltage to be so low.


Voltage @ U559 (as received) before W250 was lifted:
Voltage @ U559 (as received) before W250 was lifted:
 
:U559-1  -5.064 V
U559-1  -5.064VDC
:U559-7  +5.064 V
 
U559-7  +5.064VDC


Looking at the schematic, I saw a Service Jumper W250 in the +7.5V circuit, so I decided to disconnect this jumper, hoping to see some sort of change.  This simple act fixed the horizontal position, vertical position and cursor problems immediately.  All that was needed were a few minor adjustments to the trimmers.   
Looking at the schematic, I saw a Service Jumper W250 in the +7.5V circuit, so I decided to disconnect this jumper, hoping to see some sort of change.  This simple act fixed the horizontal position, vertical position and cursor problems immediately.  All that was needed were a few minor adjustments to the trimmers.   
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Voltage @ U559 after W250 was lifted/removed:
Voltage @ U559 after W250 was lifted/removed:
 
:U559-1  -7.494 V
U559-1  -7.494VDC
:U559-7  +7.494 V
 
U559-7  +7.494VDC


The position controls are connected slightly different on the early and late models, this is clearly shown in the Vertical Amp schematics.   
The position controls are connected slightly different on the early and late models, this is clearly shown in the Vertical Amp schematics.   


"Late" models (s/n B040000 & up) have 5V supplied to Pin 3 of the Vertical Position pots from another source on the Vertical Amp board.  
*"Late" models (s/n B040000 & up) have 5 V supplied to Pin 3 of the Vertical Position pots from another source on the Vertical Amp board.  
 
*"Early" model (s/n B039999 & down)use the 7.5 V Reference from A16 routed through W250 to supply Pin 3 of the Vertical Position pots.
"Early" model (s/n B039999 & down)use the 7.5V Reference from A16 routed through W250 to supply Pin 3 of the Vertical Position pots.


Therefore:   
Therefore:   


A16 "Early" model (s/n B039999 & down) use W250.   
* A16 "Early" model (s/n B039999 & down) use W250.   
 
* A16 "Late" models (s/n B040000 & up) do not use W250 and have empty pads where W250 would have been installed.
A16 "Late" models (s/n B040000 & up) do not use W250 and have empty pads where W250 would have been installed.


The +5V from the Vertical Position Pots was opposing the +7.5VDC that was being fed from U559B and through W250.  The also reduced the output of U559A as well, since that part of the Op-Amp is a simple inverter.
The +5 V from the Vertical Position Pots was opposing the +7.5 V that was being fed from U559B and through W250.  The also reduced the output of U559A as well, since that part of the Op-Amp is a simple inverter.


My Service Manual Schematic does not show a S/N break for W250 on A16.  In addition the electrical parts list shows this part being used on all units.  
My Service Manual Schematic does not show a S/N break for W250 on A16.  In addition the electrical parts list shows this part being used on all units.  


To compound the issue, my specific unit was "Made in Holland", so I could not tell for certain which schematic applied.  Evidently, this particular unit is a "Late" pattern unit and the board that I obtained was one from an "Early" pattern unit.
To compound the issue, my specific unit was "Made in Holland", so I could not tell for certain which schematic applied.  Evidently, this particular unit is a "Late" pattern unit and the board that I obtained was one from an "Early" pattern unit.
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