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summary=100 MHz oscilloscope|
summary=100 MHz oscilloscope|
manuals=
manuals=
* [http://bama.edebris.com/download/tek/585/585.pdf Tektronix 585 Manual (PDF)]
* [[Media:070-171.pdf|Tektronix 585 Manual]] (PDF, OCR)
* [http://w140.com/tek_585a_serno_14416.pdf Tektronix 585A Manual (PDF)]
* [[Media:070-0391-01.pdf|Tektronix 585A Manual]] (PDF)
* ''070-0392-00.pdf RM585A Manual needed''
* [[Media:070-427.pdf|Tektronix 585A Operator's Manual]] (4"×5", PDF)
<small>
 
'''Calibration'''
* [[Media:Service Scope 39 Aug 1966.pdf|580 series gain adjustment procedure, in Service Scope 39, Aug 1966]]
* [[Media:Service Scope 39 Aug 1966.pdf|580 series gain adjustment procedure, in Service Scope 39, Aug 1966]]
* [http://w140.com/585A_Operator_Manual_orig_4x5_inches.pdf Tektronix 585A Operators Handbook (PDF)]
* [http://w140.com/tek_fcp/tek_585_fac_cal.pdf Tektronix 585 Factory Calibration Procedure, June 1961 (PDF)]
* [http://w140.com/tek_fcp/tek_585_fac_cal.pdf Tektronix 585 Factory Calibration Procedure, June 1961 (PDF)]
* [[Media:Tek 585a fcp nov 1968.pdf|Tektronix 585A Factor Calibration Procedure, November 1968 (PDF)]]
* [[Media:Tek 585a fcp nov 1968.pdf|Tektronix 585A Factor Calibration Procedure, November 1968 (PDF)]]
'''Modifications'''
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20170727004536/http://www.reprise.com/host/tektronix/reference/581_relay.asp  Power supply Mod (From Stan's website, archived)]
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20170727004536/http://www.reprise.com/host/tektronix/reference/581_relay.asp  Power supply Mod (From Stan's website, archived)]
</small>
}}
}}
The '''Tektronix 585''' is a 100 MHz [[580-series scopes|580-Series scope]] that Tektronix [[introduced in 1959]].
The '''Tektronix 585''' is a 100 MHz [[580-series scopes|580-Series scope]] that Tektronix [[introduced in 1959]].
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The 58x series were the first Tek scopes with [[distributed deflection plates]] and the last with a [[distributed amplifier]].
The 58x series were the first Tek scopes with [[distributed deflection plates]] and the last with a [[distributed amplifier]].
At 100 MHz (down-rated to 95 MHz in 1962 and 85 MHz for the 585A) with the [[80|Type 80 plug-in]] and up to 85 MHz with the dual-channel [[82|Type 82]],  
At 100 MHz (down-rated to 95 MHz in 1962 and 85 MHz for the 585A) with the [[80|Type 80 plug-in]] and up to 85 MHz with the dual-channel [[82|Type 82]],  
they were the highest-speed general purpose scopes of Tek's tube scope era (the 1 GHz [[519]] was specialized with no vertical amplifier).
they were the highest-speed general purpose scopes of Tek's tube scope era. (The 1 GHz [[519]] was specialized with no vertical amplifier.)


The 585's front panel layout is almost identical to the [[545A]] that came out at the same time. The 585 also shares internal construction and circuits such as the power supply with the [[535]]/[[545]] line of scopes.
The 585's front panel layout is almost identical to the [[545A]] that came out at the same time. The 585 also shares internal construction and circuits such as the power supply with the [[535]]/[[545]] line of scopes.
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{{Spec | CRT | [[T581]], distributed vertical deflection plates, 10 kV acceleration }}
{{Spec | CRT | [[T581]], distributed vertical deflection plates, 10 kV acceleration }}
{{Spec | Outputs | A Sawtooth, A Gate, B Gate, Calibrator (0.2 mV to 100 V<sub>p-p</sub>, 1−2−5) }}
{{Spec | Outputs | A Sawtooth, A Gate, B Gate, Calibrator (0.2 mV to 100 V<sub>p-p</sub>, 1−2−5) }}
{{Spec | Line Voltage/Power Consumption| 107-127 OR 214-234 V<sub>AC</sub>, 50-60 Hz, 890VA/710W}}
{{Spec | Line Voltage/Power Consumption| 107−127 or 214−234 V<sub>AC</sub>, 50-60 Hz, 890 VA / 710 W}}
{{Spec | Dimensions | (W/L/H) 13 x 24 x 17 inches }}
{{Spec | Dimensions | (W/L/H) 330×610×432 mm³ (13"×24"×17") }}


{{EndSpecs}}
{{EndSpecs}}
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==585A differences==
==585A differences==
The 585A uses a tunnel-diode trigger circuit (see below), adds HF Sync and AC LF reject modes to the timebase A trigger selector, and adds a [[trace rotation]] coil.
The 585A uses a tunnel-diode trigger circuit (see below), adds HF Sync and AC LF reject modes to the timebase A trigger selector, and adds a [[trace rotation]] coil.
{| class="wikitable"
<!-- Header -->
! colspan="3" | Few of the changes across 585 and 585A
|-
!
! 585
! 585A
<!-- End Header -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
!  rowspan="2" | A-Trigger
| SN Up-to  1070
*6EW8 Trigger comparator.
*6DJ8 Trigger multivibrator
| rowspan="2" |
*Tunnel diode trigger
*PNP trigger amplifier [[2N2048]]
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
| SN 1071-Up
*Tunnel diode trigger
*PNP trigger amplifier [[OC171]]
<!-- End Section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-
!Sweep Generator
| Standard
| SN 120000-up
D152/252 added to [[6AL5]] disconnect diodes
<!-- End section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
! rowspan="2"| 12.6V Power
| SN Up-to 3762
*Used for plug-in
*Selenium rectifier
| rowspan="2" |
*Used for plug-in and vertical amplifier heaters
*SN 6580-up  Fused
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
| SN 3763-Up 
*Used for plug-in and vertical amplifier heaters
*Minor design changes from earlier SN
<!-- End Section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-
! rowspan="2"| Vertical amplifier
grind/plate line fuses
| SN Up-to 3762 No Fuse
| rowspan="2" |  Fused
|-
| SN 3763-Up - added F1210, F1260, F1285
<!-- End Section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
! rowspan="2"| Delay Relay
| rowspan="2"|  6NO45
*Heater power from unregulated 18V DC
* 33Ω dropping resistor.
| SN Up-to 9179
*6NO45
*Heater power from unregulated 18V DC
* 33Ω dropping resistor.
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
| SN 9180-Up
*18NO30
*Heater power from unregulated 18V DC
|-
<!-- End Section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-
! Trace Rotation
| Not present
| SN 9000-Up - Added trace rotation
|-
<!-- End Section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
! Final vertial power amp
|  [[6939]]/AX193/7699 dual tetrode
| 2 X [[7788]] Pentode
|-
<!-- End Section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-
! Power supply Mod
| None
| SN 9250-Up Main relay K601-4 relocated [http://web.archive.org/web/20170727004536/http://www.reprise.com/host/tektronix/reference/581_relay.asp  Details]
|-
<!-- End Section -->
! colspan="3" |SN Range not applicable for rackmount models
|-
|}


==Links==
==Links==
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Rackmount versions were also made, the RM585 and RM585A.
Rackmount versions were also made, the RM585 and RM585A.


==Prices==
===Circuit Variants===
{|
 
{| class="wikitable"
<!-- Header -->
! colspan="3" | Few of the changes across 585 and 585A
|-
|-
|
!
{| class="wikitable"
! 585
! 585A
<!-- End Header -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
!  rowspan="2" | A-Trigger
| SN up to 1070
*[[6EW8]] Trigger comparator.
*[[6DJ8]] Trigger multivibrator
| rowspan="2" |
*Tunnel diode trigger
*PNP trigger amplifier [[2N2048]]
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
| SN 1071 up
*Tunnel diode trigger
*PNP trigger amplifier [[OC171]]
<!-- End Section -->
<!-- Start section -->
|-
|-
| &nbsp;
!Sweep Generator
| colspan="2" align="center" | 585
| Standard
| colspan="1" align="center" | 585A
| SN 120000 up
D152/252 added to [[6AL5]] disconnect diodes
<!-- End section -->
 
<!-- Start section -->
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
! rowspan="2"| 12.6 V Power
| SN up to 3762
*Used for plug-in
*Selenium rectifier
| rowspan="2" |
*Used for plug-in and vertical amplifier heaters
*SN 6580 up  Fused
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
| SN 3763 up 
*Used for plug-in and vertical amplifier heaters
*Minor design changes from earlier SN
<!-- End Section -->
 
<!-- Start section -->
|-
|-
! Year
! rowspan="2"| Vertical amplifier
! 1959
grid/plate line fuses
! 1962
| SN up to 3762: No Fuse
! 1963
| rowspan="2" |  Fused
|-
|-
! mainframe only
| SN 3763 up: Added F1210, F1260, F1285
|align=right| $1,675
<!-- End Section -->
|align=right$1,725
<!-- Start section -->
|align=right| $1,725
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
! rowspan="2"| Delay Relay
| rowspan="2"[[6NO45]]
*Heater power from unregulated 18 V DC
* 33 Ω dropping resistor.
| SN up to 9179
*[[6NO45]]
*Heater power from unregulated 18 V DC
 
* 33 Ω dropping resistor.
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
| SN 9180 up
*[[18NO30]]
*Heater power from unregulated 18 V DC
|-
|-
! 2020 value''**''
<!-- End Section -->
|align=right| $14,890
 
|align=right| $14,780
<!-- Start section -->
|align=right| $14,580
|-
|-
! mainframe+[[80]]+[[P80]]
! Trace Rotation
|align=right|  $1,825
| Not present
|align=right|  $1,875
| SN 9000 up: Added trace rotation
|align=right|  $1,975
|-
|-
! 2020 value''**''
<!-- End Section -->
|align=right| $16,220
 
|align=right| $16,060
<!-- Start section -->
|align=right| $16,700
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;"
|}
! Final vertical power amp
|
| [[6939]]/AX193/7699 dual tetrode
{| class="wikitable"
| 2 × [[7788]] Pentode
|-
|-
| &nbsp;
<!-- End Section -->
| colspan="3" align="center" | 585A
 
<!-- Start section -->
|-
|-
! Year
! Power supply Mod
! 1965
| None
! 1969
| SN 9250 up: Main relay K601-4 relocated [http://web.archive.org/web/20170727004536/http://www.reprise.com/host/tektronix/reference/581_relay.asp  Details]
|-
|-
! mainframe only
<!-- End Section -->
|align=right|  $1,725
! colspan="3" |SN Range not applicable for rack-mount models
|align=right|  $1,800
|-
! 2020 value''**''
|align=right| $14,170
|align=right| $12,690
|-
|-
! mainframe+[[86]]+[[P6008]]
|align=right|  $2,075
|align=right|  $2,185
|-
! 2020 value''**''
|align=right| $17,040
|align=right| $15,400
|}
|}
|
 
==Prices==
 
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| &nbsp;
| colspan="2" |  &nbsp;
| colspan="3" align="center" | 585A
| colspan="2" align="center" | 585
| colspan="4" align="center" | 585A
|-
|-
! Year
! colspan="2" | Year
! 1959
! 1962
! 1963
! 1965
! 1965
! 1969
! 1969
! 1971*
! 1971*
|-
|-
! mainframe only
! rowspan="2"| mainframe only
| catalog
|align=right|  $1,675
|align=right|  $1,725
|align=right|  $1,725
|align=right|  $1,725
|align=right|  $1,725
|align=right|  $1,800
|align=right|  $1,800
|align=right|  $3,325
|align=right|  $3,325
|-
|-
! 2020 value''**''
| 2020''**''
|align=right| $14,890
|align=right| $14,780
|align=right| $14,580
|align=right| $14,170
|align=right| $14,170
|align=right| $12,690
|align=right| $12,690
|align=right| $15,330
|align=right| $15,330
|-
|-
! mainframe+[[82]]
! rowspan="2"| mainframe+[[80]]+[[P80]]
| catalog
|align=right|  $1,825
|align=right|  $1,875
|align=right|  $1,975
|-
| 2020''**''
|align=right| $16,220
|align=right| $16,060
|align=right| $16,700
|-
! rowspan="2"| mainframe+[[82]]
| catalog
|
|
|
|align=right|  $2,375
|align=right|  $2,375
|align=right|  $2,575
|align=right|  $2,575
|align=right|  $3,325
|align=right|  $3,325
|-
|-
! 2020 value''**''
| 2020''**''
|
|
|
|align=right| $19,500
|align=right| $19,500
|align=right| $18,150
|align=right| $18,150
|align=right| $21,240
|align=right| $21,240
|-
!  rowspan="2"| mainframe+[[86]]+[[P6008]]
| catalog
|
|
|
|align=right|  $2,075
|align=right|  $2,185
|
|-
| 2020''**''
|
|
|
|align=right| $17,040
|align=right| $15,400
|
|}
|}
|}
 
:''* "limited demand" instrument''
:''* "limited demand" instrument''
:''** original list price corrected for inflation''
:''** original list price corrected for inflation''
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Tek-585-82.jpg          | 585 with [[82|Type 82 plug-in]]
Tek-585-82.jpg          | 585 with [[82|Type 82 plug-in]]
Tek 585 with 82.jpg      | 585 with [[82|Type 82 plug-in]]
Tek 585 with 82.jpg      | 585 with [[82|Type 82 plug-in]]
Tek 585 non A Field Modification 040-275 label.jpg | Front panel label indicating Field Modification 040-275 is applied
</gallery>
</gallery>
===585 non-A Internals===
===585 non-A Internals===
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<gallery>
<gallery>
Rm 585a.jpg|RM-585A
Rm 585a.jpg|RM-585A
Tek_RM585A-Front.jpeg | RM585A - ALT/DLYD' Trigger
Tek_RM585A-Back.jpeg | RM585A - Rear
</gallery>
</gallery>
===RM585A Internals===
===RM585A Internals===
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Tek_RM585A_Int_Rear.jpeg | RM585A Internal - Rear
Tek_RM585A_Int_Rear.jpeg | RM585A Internal - Rear
Tek_585A_VOutput-Tubes.jpeg | RM585A Internal - Vamp - Output [[7788]] pair
Tek_585A_VOutput-Tubes.jpeg | RM585A Internal - Vamp - Output [[7788]] pair
RM585A_12.6V-Recrifier.jpeg | 12.6V Silicon diode rectifier with fuse
RM585A_12.6V-Recrifier.jpeg | 12.6 V rail silicon diode rectifier with fuse
RM585A_T44-Trigger-Transformer.jpeg | T44 - Trigger coupling transformer (Tunnel diode trigger)
RM585A_T44-Trigger-Transformer.jpeg | T44 - Trigger coupling transformer (Tunnel diode trigger)
RM585A_12.6V-regulator.jpeg | 12.6 Volt regulator transistors
RM585A_12.6V-regulator.jpeg | 12.6 V rail regulator transistors
RM585A_18V-delayrelay.jpeg | Delay relay 18NO30T
RM585A_18V-delayrelay.jpeg | Delay relay 18NO30T
Tek_585A_Trigger-Amp-transistor.jpeg| Trigger amplifier transistor 2N2048
Tek_585A_Trigger-Amp-transistor.jpeg| Trigger amplifier transistor 2N2048
Tek_585A_Vamp-Plate-Line-Termination.jpeg| Plate line termination (post deflection plates)
Tek_585A_Vamp-Plate-Line-Termination.jpeg| Plate line termination (post deflection plates)
Tek_585A_T1046-transformer.jpeg | T1046 Troid transformer in Vamp, used for phase correction/common mode choke  
Tek_585A_T1046-transformer.jpeg | T1046 toroid transformer in V-amp, used as phase correction/common mode choke  
Tek_585A_Grid_Line.jpeg | Tek 585A V-amp grid line (Delay Line driver stage)
Tek_585A_Grid_Line.jpeg | Tek 585A V-amp grid line (Delay Line driver stage)
Tek_585A_Plate_Line.jpeg | Tek 585A plate line  (partial, delay Line driver stage)
Tek_585A_Plate_Line.jpeg | Tek 585A plate line  (partial, delay Line driver stage)

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