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Several tube-era Tektronix oscilloscopes such as the [[549]], [[581]] and [[585]] contain a circuit that delays turn-on of the main supply voltages until the tubes are warmed up.
[[File:Amperite delay relays 1953.pdf|thumb|300px|right|Amperite Delay Relays, 1953 (click to enlarge)]]
Several later tube-era Tektronix oscilloscopes such as the [[549]], [[581]] and [[585]] that already use semiconductor rectifiers for the anode voltages contain a '''thermal delay relay''' such as the 6N045T or 6N030T in a circuit that delays turn-on of the main supply voltages until the tubes are warmed up.  This is normally not needed in scopes with tube rectifiers because of their inherent slow-start behavior.  


A main relay that switches the anode voltages is controlled by a '''thermal delay relay''' such as the 6N045 or 6N030 which is housed in a miniature 9-pin glass tube enclosure.
[[Bruce Baur]] said:
<blockquote>
The reason Tek resorted to time delay on the B+ is that the high current tubes, like the series regulators, did not like to produce current with a cold to warm cathode.
Until the cathode reached its normal hot running temperature there was a tendency for it to strip cathode material off of the cathode and shorten the life of the tube.


When the scope is turned on, a bi-metal strip in the delay relay is beginning to heat up.  After the delay time (30 to 60 seconds depending on instrument), the bi-metal strip closes a contact that energizes the main relay.  One of the main relay's contacts is used to make it self-holding while at the same time cutting out the delay relay, which is beginning to cool so it will be ready to provide delaying turn-on again in the event of a power outage.
The [[5U4]] filament warms up fast, but the [[6X4]] warms up about the same as the other tubes and acts as a time delay for the reference that the supplies need to operate from the 5U4.
</blockquote>
 
When the scope is turned on, a bi-metal strip in the delay relay is beginning to heat up.  After the delay time (30 to 60 seconds depending on the instrument), the bi-metal strip closes a contact that energizes the main relay, thereby turning the anode voltages on.  One of the main relay's contacts is used to make it self-holding, while at the same time cutting out the delay relay.  At this time, the bi-metal strip is beginning to cool so it will be ready to provide delaying turn-on again in the event of a power outage.
 
The part number is decoded as: 6 − Heater Voltage, NO − Normally Open / C − Normally Closed, XX − delay time, T − {{B9A base}} / no suffix − {{Octal base}}).
For example, a 6NO30T is a 6 Volt filament/heating element with a normally open contact and a delay time of 30 seconds, with a miniature 9-pin base. (The original literature used NO and N0 prefixes interchangeably.)
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! colspan="3" | Part # reference
|- style="text-align:center;"
| Tek Part
| MFR Part
| Used in
|- style="text-align:center;"
|148-0002-00
|6NO45
|[[535]],[[545]],[[585]],[[555]]
|-
|148-0006-00
|26NO45T
|?
|-
|148-0009-00
|6NO15T
|?
|-
|148-0021-00
|6NO30T
|[[547]],[[549]]
|-
|148-0023-00
|18NO30
|[[585A]]
|}
 
==Links==
* Rajesh's time delay relay video: [https://youtu.be/ma1GSj9XWtM Part 1] / [https://youtu.be/2m3uEKUIWiA Part 2]
 
==Reference==
* [https://ia804505.us.archive.org/13/items/tek_1977_parts_price_list_number_35a/tek_1977_parts_price_list_number_35a.pdf Tektronix Parts Price List Number 35a (1977) - Page 6.053]
 
==Pictures==


<gallery>
<gallery>
6N045 1.jpg | 6N045 delay relay (from [[585]])
6N045 1.jpg | 6NO45 delay relay (from [[585]])
6N045 2.jpg | 6N045
6N045 2.jpg | 6NO45
6N045 3.jpg | 6N045
6N045 3.jpg | 6NO45
6N045 4.jpg | 6N045
6N045 4.jpg | 6NO45
Tube_18NO30.jpeg |  18NO30 (from [[585A]])
Delay relay.png | Delay relay circuit from [[581]]/[[585]]. K600 is the delay relay, K601 the main anode voltage relay.
Delay relay.png | Delay relay circuit from [[581]]/[[585]]. K600 is the delay relay, K601 the main anode voltage relay.
Amperite delay relays 1953.pdf | Data from Radio's Master, 18th Ed., 1953
Amperite delay relays 1957.pdf | Data from REPCO Radio Electronic Master Official Parts and Equipment Catalog, 21st Ed., 1957
</gallery>
</gallery>




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Latest revision as of 06:37, 8 August 2023

Amperite Delay Relays, 1953 (click to enlarge)

Several later tube-era Tektronix oscilloscopes such as the 549, 581 and 585 that already use semiconductor rectifiers for the anode voltages contain a thermal delay relay such as the 6N045T or 6N030T in a circuit that delays turn-on of the main supply voltages until the tubes are warmed up. This is normally not needed in scopes with tube rectifiers because of their inherent slow-start behavior.

Bruce Baur said:

The reason Tek resorted to time delay on the B+ is that the high current tubes, like the series regulators, did not like to produce current with a cold to warm cathode.

Until the cathode reached its normal hot running temperature there was a tendency for it to strip cathode material off of the cathode and shorten the life of the tube.

The 5U4 filament warms up fast, but the 6X4 warms up about the same as the other tubes and acts as a time delay for the reference that the supplies need to operate from the 5U4.

When the scope is turned on, a bi-metal strip in the delay relay is beginning to heat up. After the delay time (30 to 60 seconds depending on the instrument), the bi-metal strip closes a contact that energizes the main relay, thereby turning the anode voltages on. One of the main relay's contacts is used to make it self-holding, while at the same time cutting out the delay relay. At this time, the bi-metal strip is beginning to cool so it will be ready to provide delaying turn-on again in the event of a power outage.

The part number is decoded as: 6 − Heater Voltage, NO − Normally Open / C − Normally Closed, XX − delay time, T − B9A (Noval) miniature 9-pin base / no suffix − octal base). For example, a 6NO30T is a 6 Volt filament/heating element with a normally open contact and a delay time of 30 seconds, with a miniature 9-pin base. (The original literature used NO and N0 prefixes interchangeably.)

Part # reference
Tek Part MFR Part Used in
148-0002-00 6NO45 535,545,585,555
148-0006-00 26NO45T ?
148-0009-00 6NO15T ?
148-0021-00 6NO30T 547,549
148-0023-00 18NO30 585A

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