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[[introduced_in_1959|1959]] and made through the 1960s. (The 585A was discontinued after 1971.) | [[introduced_in_1959|1959]] and made through the 1960s. (The 585A was discontinued after 1971.) | ||
{{ | At 100 MHz with the [[80|Type 80 plug-in]] and up to 85 MHz with the dual-channel [[82|Type 82]], the 585 was the highest-speed general purpose scope of Tek's tube scope era (the 1 GHz [[519]] was specialized with no vertical amplifier). | ||
{{BeginSpecs}} | |||
{{Spec | Rise time | 3.5 ns with [[80 | Type 80]] plugin and [[P80|P80 probe]] }} | |||
{{Spec | Timebase A | 50 ns/Div to 2 s/Div, 1−2−5, variable ×2.5, magnifier ×5, single sweep; X input }} | |||
{{Spec | Timebase B | 2 μs/Div to 1 s/Div, 1−2−5, can delay timebase A by 1 μs to 10 s }} | |||
{{Spec | CRT | [[T581]], distributed vertical deflection plates, 10 kV acceleration }} | |||
{{Spec | Outputs | A Sawtooth, A Gate, B Gate, Calibrator (0.2 mV to 100 V<sub>p-p</sub>, 1−2−5) }} | |||
{{EndSpecs}} | |||
==Internals== | ==Internals== | ||
=== Plug-in Interface === | === Plug-in Interface === | ||
The 585 uses [[580-series plug-ins]], which look like [[letter-series and 1-series plug-ins]] | The 585 uses [[580-series plug-ins]], which look like [[letter-series and 1-series plug-ins]] | ||
but are electrically different, primarily in the impedance of the signal interface | but are electrically different, primarily in the impedance of the signal interface between the | ||
between the plug-in and the scope. The pin-out is also different | plug-in and the scope. The pin-out is also different, being essentially flipped 180° from its | ||
530/540/550 series counterparts (''Signal Out'' is on 14/16 as opposed to 1/3, etc.) | |||
The [[81|Type 81]] adapter allows the use of letter-series and 1-series plug-ins in a 585. | The [[81|Type 81]] adapter allows the use of letter-series and 1-series plug-ins in a 585. | ||
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Starting at serial number 1071, the miniature dual triode Schmitt trigger was replaced by a | Starting at serial number 1071, the miniature dual triode Schmitt trigger was replaced by a | ||
10 mA [[tunnel diodes|tunnel diode]] and a pulse amplifier made with an OC171 | 10 mA [[tunnel diodes|tunnel diode]] and a pulse amplifier made with an [[OC171]] Germanium PNP | ||
transistor. The tunnel diode is AC-coupled to the base-emitter junction of the transistor. | transistor. The tunnel diode is AC-coupled to the base-emitter junction of the transistor. | ||
=== Vertical Signal Path === | === Vertical Signal Path === | ||
Like the [[545]], [[551]], and [[555]], the 585 uses | Like the [[545]], [[551]], and [[555]], the 585 uses two [[distributed amplifier]]s in the vertical | ||
signal path, one with seven differential [[6DJ8]] stages driving a helically-wound, differential [[delay line]], | |||
deflection plates, the [[T581]], enabling it to have both high sensitivity and fast risetime. | followed by a five-stage differential distributed driver amplifier and a [[7699]] power stage driving the CRT. | ||
Total | |||
Unlike the other 500-series scopes, the 585 uses a CRT with [[distributed vertical deflection plates]], | |||
the [[T581]], enabling it to have both high sensitivity and fast risetime. Total acceleration voltage is 10 kV. | |||
Several improvements were published for the 585 circuitry, including the enhanced trigger circuit. | Several improvements were published for the 585 circuitry, including the enhanced trigger circuit. | ||
If all of those changes are applied to a 585, it is essentially a 585A. | If all of those changes are applied to a 585, it is essentially a 585A. | ||
===Semiconductors=== | |||
The 585 uses semiconductor diodes as rectifiers and Germanium transistors in the 12 V power supply. | |||
=== Rackmount Versions === | === Rackmount Versions === | ||
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{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
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| colspan="2" align="center" | 585 | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" | 585A | |||
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! Year | ! Year | ||
! 1959 | ! 1959 | ||
! 1962 | |||
! 1963 | |||
! 1965 | |||
! 1971 | ! 1971 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Catalog price | ! Catalog price | ||
|align=right| $1,675 | |align=right| $1,675 | ||
|align=right| $1,725 | |||
|align=right| $1,725 | |||
|align=right| $1,725 | |||
|align=right| $2,400 | |align=right| $2,400 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 2018 value | ! 2018 value | ||
|align=right| $14,330 | |align=right| $14,330 | ||
|align=right| $14,220 | |||
|align=right| $14,040 | |||
|align=right| $13,640 | |||
|align=right| $14,760 | |align=right| $14,760 | ||
|} | |} | ||
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Tek-585-81-ca.jpg | 585 with [[81|Type 81 Adapter]] and [[CA|Type CA plug-in]] | Tek-585-81-ca.jpg | 585 with [[81|Type 81 Adapter]] and [[CA|Type CA plug-in]] | ||
Tek 585 with 82.jpg | 585 with [[82|Type 82]] | Tek 585 with 82.jpg | 585 with [[82|Type 82]] | ||
Tek585-bottom.jpg | | Tek585-bottom.jpg | 585 bottom view | ||
Tek585-dl-driver-1.jpg | Delay line driver amplifier | Tek585-dl-driver-1.jpg | Delay line driver amplifier | ||
Tek585-dl-driver-bot.jpg | Delay line driver amplifier (bottom) | Tek585-dl-driver-bot.jpg | Delay line driver amplifier (bottom) | ||
Tek585-left-1.jpg | | Tek585-left-1.jpg | 585 left side | ||
Tek585-vert-1.jpg | Vertical amplifier (post-delay 5-stage distributed amplifier) | Tek585-vert-1.jpg | Vertical amplifier (post-delay 5-stage distributed amplifier) | ||
Tek585-vert-2.jpg | Vertical amplifier (5-stage dist amp, power output stage) | Tek585-vert-2.jpg | Vertical amplifier (5-stage dist amp, power output stage) | ||
Tek585-rect.jpg | Rectifiers | Tek585-rect.jpg | Rectifiers | ||
Tek585-tb-a.jpg | Time Base A | Tek585-tb-a.jpg | Time Base A | ||
Tek585-top-1.jpg | | Tek585-top-1.jpg | 585 top view | ||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
Revision as of 12:32, 8 April 2018
The Tektronix 585 is a 100 MHz 580-Series scope introduced by Tektronix in 1959 and made through the 1960s. (The 585A was discontinued after 1971.)
At 100 MHz with the Type 80 plug-in and up to 85 MHz with the dual-channel Type 82, the 585 was the highest-speed general purpose scope of Tek's tube scope era (the 1 GHz 519 was specialized with no vertical amplifier).
Key Specifications
Rise time | 3.5 ns with Type 80 plugin and P80 probe |
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Timebase A | 50 ns/Div to 2 s/Div, 1−2−5, variable ×2.5, magnifier ×5, single sweep; X input |
Timebase B | 2 μs/Div to 1 s/Div, 1−2−5, can delay timebase A by 1 μs to 10 s |
CRT | T581, distributed vertical deflection plates, 10 kV acceleration |
Outputs | A Sawtooth, A Gate, B Gate, Calibrator (0.2 mV to 100 Vp-p, 1−2−5) |
Internals
Plug-in Interface
The 585 uses 580-series plug-ins, which look like letter-series and 1-series plug-ins but are electrically different, primarily in the impedance of the signal interface between the plug-in and the scope. The pin-out is also different, being essentially flipped 180° from its 530/540/550 series counterparts (Signal Out is on 14/16 as opposed to 1/3, etc.)
The Type 81 adapter allows the use of letter-series and 1-series plug-ins in a 585.
Trigger Circuit
The original 585 (up to serial number 1070) has an "A" trigger circuit that has a differential trigger amplifier made of a pair of 6EW6 miniature pentodes, followed by a Schmitt trigger made of a pair of miniature dual triode tubes.
Starting at serial number 1071, the miniature dual triode Schmitt trigger was replaced by a 10 mA tunnel diode and a pulse amplifier made with an OC171 Germanium PNP transistor. The tunnel diode is AC-coupled to the base-emitter junction of the transistor.
Vertical Signal Path
Like the 545, 551, and 555, the 585 uses two distributed amplifiers in the vertical signal path, one with seven differential 6DJ8 stages driving a helically-wound, differential delay line, followed by a five-stage differential distributed driver amplifier and a 7699 power stage driving the CRT.
Unlike the other 500-series scopes, the 585 uses a CRT with distributed vertical deflection plates, the T581, enabling it to have both high sensitivity and fast risetime. Total acceleration voltage is 10 kV.
Several improvements were published for the 585 circuitry, including the enhanced trigger circuit. If all of those changes are applied to a 585, it is essentially a 585A.
Semiconductors
The 585 uses semiconductor diodes as rectifiers and Germanium transistors in the 12 V power supply.
Rackmount Versions
Rackmount versions were also made, the RM585 and RM585A.
Prices
585 | 585A | ||||
Year | 1959 | 1962 | 1963 | 1965 | 1971 |
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Catalog price | $1,675 | $1,725 | $1,725 | $1,725 | $2,400 |
2018 value | $14,330 | $14,220 | $14,040 | $13,640 | $14,760 |
Pictures
585 non-A
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585 with Type 81 Adapter and Type CA plug-in
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585 with Type 82
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585 bottom view
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Delay line driver amplifier
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Delay line driver amplifier (bottom)
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585 left side
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Vertical amplifier (post-delay 5-stage distributed amplifier)
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Vertical amplifier (5-stage dist amp, power output stage)
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Rectifiers
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Time Base A
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585 top view
585A
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585A with 82
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585A trigger circuit
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White plastic clip holds tunnel diode for triggering
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Inside view shows regulator tubes
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Distributed vertical amplifier
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T5810P31 distributed deflection plates
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585A delay line
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585A delay line
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585A delay line
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585 with TRIGGER SOURCE switch upgraded to 585A design
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585A on cart
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585A with 81A and Hickok plug-in
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Direct Connection to CRT (from 1964 Service Scope)
RM585A
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RM-585A