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Tektronix 7B85
400 MHz delaying timebase Tektronix 7B85 Delaying Timebase plug-in Compatible with 7000-series scopes Produced from 1976 to 1990 Manuals 7B85 Operator's Manual (OCR) 7B85 Instruction Manual 070-1961-00 7B85 Instruction Manual 070-1961-01 (OCR) 070-1961-01 Alternate copy @ BAMA (All manuals in PDF format unless noted otherwise)

Manuals – Specifications – Links – Pictures

The Tektronix 7B85 is a 400 MHz delaying timebase for 7000-series scopes with digital delay and delta time read-out capability, typically used in the 7800 Series, e.g. 7844. It does not support X-Y mode.

The delay function differentiates the 7B85 from the otherwise similar 7B80. The 7B87 is also similar to the 7B85 but provides an acquisition clock for a digital storage mainframe instead of a delay.

The 7B85/7B80 combination was introduced in 1976 to replace the 200 MHz 7B71/7B70 that had no digital delay read-out. For the 7104 1 GHz-class scopes, the 7B15/7B10 provide the functionality of 7B85/7B80.

From Tekscope Vol.8 No.1, 1976:

Les Larson developed the trigger circuitry and served as Project Manager for the 7B80 and 7B85. The sweeps were designed by Bruce Hofer and the DVM and related logic by Paul Farley. Much credit is due Art Metz for his work on the trigger input IC which includes the peak-to-peak automatic trigger circuitry. Gene Andrews, Program Manager, provided overall direction for the project.

Key Specifications

Sweep	10 ns/div to 5 s/div, 1−2−5; ×10 magnifier down to 1 ns/div; variable to ×2.5
Triggering	to 400 MHz
Features	Digital read-out of delay and delta times Variable Trigger Holdoff Peak-to-peak Auto Triggering

Links

Demonstration of delay and delta time measurement on a 7B85

Documents Referencing 7B85

Document	Class	Title	Authors	Year	Links
Tekscope 1976 V8 N1.pdf	Article	Delta Time Measurement for the 7000 Series	Paul Farley • Les Larson • Bruce Hofer	1976	7B85 • 7B80 • DM40 • DM43
Technology Report October 1979.pdf	Article	Patent Received: 4,109,182 Simultaneous Delayed Sweep Display	Oliver Dalton	1979	Patent US 4109182A • 7B80 • 7B85 • 7B10 • 7B15

Patents that may apply to 7B85

Page	Title	Inventors	Filing date	Grant date	Links
Patent US 3562464A	Cam actuated switch having movable and fixed contacts on circuit board	Howard Vollum • Willem H Verhoef • Tony Sprando	1968-10-07	1971-02-09	Cam switches • 2101 • 2701 • 2703 • 432 • 434 • 465 • 475 • 5A15N • 5A18N • 5A20N • 5A21N • 5A38 • 5A45 • 5B10N • 5B12N • 7A15 • 7A16A • 7A18 • 7A19 • 7A24 • 7A26 • 7B10 • 7B15 • 7B50 • 7B51 • 7B52 • 7B53A • 7B50A • 7B70 • 7B71 • 7B80 • 7B85 • 7B87 • 7B92 • 7B92A • 7D01 • 7D12 • 7D15 • 7J20 • 7S12 • 7T11 • 7T11A • AF501 • AM502 • AM503 • DC502 • DC503 • DC504 • DC505 • DM501 • DM502 • FG501 • FG501A • FG502 • FG503 • FG504 • FG507 • PG501 • PG502 • PG505 • PG506 • PG506A • PG508 • TG501 • SC502 • SC503 • SC504
Patent US 4013855A	Modular pushbutton switch	John E. Reichen • Richard Neff Meyer • Gary W. Reed	1975-03-17	1977-03-22	CP501 • 7B10 • 7B15 • 7B50A • 7B80 • 7B85 • 7B87
Patent US 4109182A	Delayed sweep system for an oscilloscope	Oliver Dalton	1976-03-10	1978-08-22	7B80 • 7B85 • 7B10 • 7B15

Internals

The 7B85 uses a 155-0185-00 digital voltmeter IC (U686). A ramp generator is started when the trigger signal arrives. The delayed sweep is started when a comparator detects that the ramp has reached a control voltage, set by the front panel knobs on the 7B85. The control voltage is proportional to the amount of delay.

The digital voltmeter in the 7B85 digitizes the control voltage and displays it on the oscilloscope readout, thereby providing the operator with a precise readout of the delay.

Another way of setting up a precisely delayed timebase is to use a 7D11 digital delay module.

The 7B85 uses the +50 V supply provided by the mainframe.

Prices

Year	1977	1980	1984	1987	1990
Catalog price	$895	$1,200	$1,700	$1,940	$2,400
In 2023 Dollars	$4,500	$4,500	$5,000	$5,200	$5,600

Pictures

Hardware

Front
7B85, left side
7B85, left side, delay board removed
7B85, right side
Family resemblance: 7B15 (top) vs. 7B85 (bottom). Left side.
Family resemblance: 7B15 (top) vs. 7B85 (bottom). Right side.
Left rear
Left front
Right front
Right rear

Measurements

These are examples of measurements with a 7B85 in the Horizontal A and a 7B80 in the Horizontal B compartment (of a 7904).

Horizontal mode is set to alternating to show the pulse signal being triggered (A) and the delayed/magnified part (B).

Measuring rise time of a pulse. Delayed signal is scaled for 0-100% on graticule. Delay time is adjusted so the trace crosses the 10% level on the center line. Delta time is adjusted so the delta-delayed trace crosses 90% on the same vertical line. Delta time readout indicates rise time directly.
Measuring rise time of a pulse. Same as before, rise time increased to 10 ns (HP8112A generator).
Pulse width measurement. Delayed signal and delta-delayed trace cross at 50%. Delta time readout indicates pulse width directly.
Pulse period measurement. Delta time is adjusted to overlay the delayed trace with one delayed by an additional period. In this picture, the two traces do not yet overlay exactly.
Pulse period measurement. Delayed trace overlays with one delayed by an additional period, delta time reads pulse period.

Components

Some Parts Used in the 7B85

Part	Part Number(s)	Class	Description	Used in
155-0049-00	155-0049-00 • 155-0049-01 • 155-0049-02	Monolithic integrated circuit	sweep control with lockout	335 • 464 • 465 • 466 • 475 • 475A • 475M • 485 • 5B31 • 5B40 • 5B52 • 5B42 • 5B44 • 7B53A • 7B80 • 7B85 • 7B87 • 7B92A • 7B90P • 7B10 • 7B15 • SC502 • 7B42N • AN/USM-281C • 067-0657-00
155-0090-00	155-0090-00 • 155-0090-01 • 155-0090-02	Monolithic integrated circuit	four-decade counter, latch and D/A converter	7B85 • 7D01 • 7D12 • 7D15 • 7J20
155-0109-00	155-0109-00 • 155-0109-01	Monolithic integrated circuit	trigger	5B25N • 5B31 • 5B40 • 5B42 • 5B44 • 5S14N • 7B50A • 7B53A • 7B80 • 7B85 • 7B87 • 7B81P • 7B90P • 7S14 • 7612D • SC502 • SC503 • SC504
155-0126-00	155-0126-00	Monolithic integrated circuit	trigger source selector and P-P auto amplifier	7B50A • 7B80 • 7B85 • 7B87 • 7B81P • 7B90P
155-0171-00	155-0171-00	Monolithic integrated circuit	four-decade counter, latch and D/A converter	7B85 • 7D01 • 7D12 • 7D15 • 7J20
155-0185-00	155-0185-00	Monolithic integrated circuit	four-digit counter, latch and D/A converter/DVM	7B15 • 7B85 • 7B87

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-* [http://bama.edebris.com/download/tek/7b85/Tektronix-7B85%20Delaying%20Time%20Base.pdf 070-1961-01 Alternate copy @ BAMA]
+* [https://bama.edebris.com/download/tek/7b85/Tektronix-7B85%20Delaying%20Time%20Base.pdf 070-1961-01 Alternate copy @ BAMA]
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 The [[7B85]]/[[7B80]] combination was introduced in 1976 to replace the 200 MHz [[7B71]]/[[7B70]] that had no digital delay read-out.  For the [[7104]] 1 GHz-class scopes, the [[7B15]]/[[7B10]] provide the functionality of 7B85/7B80.
+From Tekscope Vol.8 No.1, 1976:
+<blockquote>
+[[Les Larson]] developed the trigger circuitry and served as Project Manager for the 7B80 and 7B85.
+The sweeps were designed by [[Bruce Hofer]] and the DVM and related logic by [[Paul Farley]]. Much credit is due [[Art Metz]] for his work on the trigger input IC which includes the peak-to-peak automatic trigger circuitry.
+[[Gene Andrews]], Program Manager, provided overall direction for the project.
+</blockquote>
 {{BeginSpecs}}
-{{Spec | Sweep | 5 s/Div to 10 ns/Div in 1-2-5 sequence, &times;10 magnifier down to 1 ns/Div, variable to &times;2.5}}
+{{Spec | Sweep | 10 ns/div to 5 s/div, 1−2−5; ×10 magnifier down to 1 ns/div; variable to ×2.5}}
-{{Spec |Triggering | to 400 MHz }}
+{{Spec | Triggering | to 400 MHz }}
 {{Spec | Features |
 * Digital read-out of delay and delta times
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 }}
 {{EndSpecs}}
+==Links==
+* [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-gF_XSj9w Demonstration of delay and delta time measurement on a 7B85]
+{{Documents|Link=7B85}}
+{{PatentLinks|7B85}}
 ==Internals==
 The 7B85 uses a [[155-0185-00]] digital voltmeter IC (U686).
 A ramp generator is started when the trigger signal arrives.
-The delayed sweep is started when a comparator detects that the ramp has reached a
+The delayed sweep is started when a comparator detects that the ramp has reached a control voltage, set by the front panel knobs on the 7B85.
-control voltage, set by the front panel knobs on the 7B85.
 The control voltage is proportional to the amount of delay.
-The digital voltmeter in the 7B85 digitizes the control voltage and displays it
+The digital voltmeter in the 7B85 digitizes the control voltage and displays it on the [[7000 series readout system|oscilloscope readout]], thereby providing the operator with a precise readout of the delay.
-on the [[7000 series readout system|oscilloscope readout]], thereby providing the
-operator with a precise readout of the delay.
-Another way of setting up a precisely delayed timebase is to use a [[7D11]] digital delay module,
+Another way of setting up a precisely delayed timebase is to use a [[7D11]] digital delay module.
-or even a time mark generator such as the [[180A]], [[181]], [[184]], or [[2901]].
 The 7B85 uses the +50 V supply provided by the mainframe.
-==Links==
-* [[Media:Tekscope_1976_V8_N1.pdf|Delta time measurement for the 7000 series.  Tekscope Vol.8 No.1, 1976]]
-* [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-gF_XSj9w Demonstration of delay and delta time measurement on a 7B85]
 ==Prices==
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 |align=right| $2,400
 |-
-! In 2021 Dollars
+! In 2023 Dollars
-|align=right| $4,100
+|align=right| $4,500
-|align=right| $4,000
 |align=right| $4,500
-|align=right| $4,700
+|align=right| $5,000
-|align=right| $5,100
+|align=right| $5,200
+|align=right| $5,600
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 </gallery>
-{{Custom ICs|7B85}}
+==Components==
+{{Parts|7B85}}
 [[Category:7000 series horizontal plugins]]