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Revision as of 03:20, 5 October 2024

7000 Overview Table

Hi, I've extended the table a bit, what do you say?

Is writing speed in cm/μs not a cleaner spec than div/μs?

Can you add the digitizers please?

--Peter (talk) 08:11, 20 September 2023 (PDT)

Mostly I found div/µs, that's why I used it. but we can change it of course.
Done the digitizer. Kinda. Maybe they belong in another table with better fitting details (sample rate, resolution, etc.)
Barrytech said there is no R7704A http://www.barrytech.com/tektronix/tek7000/tekr7704.html. should we delete it?

checked in catalogs - the R7704 remained non-A and was available until 1985 -- Peter

about the 7603: what is "some" cooling? :-)

some models, as noted on the page --Peter

are you sure with the 7623B writing speed? should it not more like the 7633?

spec from 1991 catalog, p.68 --Peter

I love the table! I came here to mention that I have a 7704A with a cooling fan - but you also have the question re the 7603. The weirdest thing is that the 7704A service manual makes no mention of a fan! This led me down a bit of a rabbit hole of reading... I'd not be surprised if some 7603s had cooling fans. I thought that there might have been a period they tried some fans before Tek change from linear PSUs to the more efficient switching PSUs - I've found no data. Qfissler (talk) 12:24, 20 September 2023 (PDT)

I've condensed the writing speed columns into two less, and added some of the missing data from my notes. --Peter (talk) 10:12, 21 September 2023 (PDT)

Looks a lot better! Thank you for your effort. --Rubasch (talk) 00:07, 22 September 2023 (PDT)

On the page 7000-series scopes there are production dates for the digitizers. But there is no source for that information... --Rubasch (talk) 10:59, 22 September 2023 (PDT)

7000 Time Table

7000 time table
Scope	Bandwith [MHz]	Years of Sales	Start of Sales	End of Sales	1969	1970	1971	1972	1973	1974	1975	1976	1977	1978	1979	1980	1981	1982	1983	1984	1985	1986	1987	1988	1989	1990	1991	1992
Scope	Bandwith [MHz]	Years of Sales	Start of Sales	End of Sales	1969	1970	1971	1972	1973	1974	1975	1976	1977	1978	1979	1980	1981	1982	1983	1984	1985	1986	1987	1988	1989	1990	1991	1992	7313	25	8	1972	1979	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7403N	65	6	1970	1975		1	1	1	1	1	1
R7403N	65	5	1971	1975			1	1	1	1	1
7503	90	3	1970	1972		1	1	1
7504	90	3	1969	1971	1	1	1
7514	90	5	1970	1974		1	1	1	1	1
7603	100	19	1972	1990				1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
R7603	100	18	1973	1990					1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7613	100	19	1972	1990				1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
R7613	100	18	1973	1990					1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7623(A,B)	100	4	1972	1992							A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	A	B	B
7623	100	4	1972	1975				1	1	(-)	1
R7623	100	2	1973	1974					1	1
7623A	100	16	1975	1990							1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
R7623A	100	17	1975	1991							1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7623B	100	2	1991	1992																							B	B
R7623B	100	2	1991	1992																							B	B
7633	100	16	1975	1990							1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
R7633	100	16	1975	1990							1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7704	150	4	1969	1972	1	1	1	1
R7704	150	16	1970	1985		1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7704A	200	16	1972	1987				1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7834	400	10	1977	1986									1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7844	400	15	1974	1988						1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
R7844	400	18	1975	1992							1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7854	400	11	1980	1990												1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7904	500	13	1971	1983			19,500 $	1	1	1	20,300 $	1	1	1	21,400 $	1	1	1	1
R7903	500	9	1974	1982						1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7904A	500	7	1984	1990																1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7934	500	4	1987	1990																			1	1	1	1
7104	1000	13	1978	1990										1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
R7103	1000	6	1985	1990																	1	1	1	1	1	1
7D20	70	11	1982	1992														1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7612D	90	9	1980	1988												1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
R7912	500	6	1973	1978					1	1	1	1	1	1
7912AD	500	10	1978	1987										1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
7912HB	750	3	1987	1989																			1	1	1
P7001	175	9	1973	1981					1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1

No Storage

Analog Storage

Digital Storage

Dual Beam

Unknown

Quick edit in the table generator:

No Storage
Analog Storage
Digital Storage
Dual Beam
Unknown

What do think about condensing the information like in the example I have added above, 7623 (A,B)?

--Peter (talk) 03:36, 19 October 2023 (PDT)

I like it - but in that form, it loses a little bit of info where the 7623 with no suffix was available while the 7623A was also available - it's easy combining A and B by comma separating - but a null suffix... how would we show that? Hmmm - I tried (-) - just to show what I mean. Qfissler (talk) 04:48, 19 October 2023 (PDT)

I also thought about combining scopes like the 7834--> 7934 but not sure if it still makes sense. Right now have not a lot of time for this. So everybody feel free to edit! --Rubasch (talk) 05:30, 19 October 2023 (PDT)

We know from catalogs or announcements in ads, articles in TekScope etc. when new models came out. There is no comparable hard info on discontinuation - mostly this comes from models no longer appearing in catalogs. I think it is therefore not meaningful to infer from the model pages that there was any sort of overlap - at some time in 1991 you got a 7623B, whether there's a theoretical choice that you could have requested a 7623A as well is not substantiated by the information we have collected – therefore the box for the first year when the newer model came out would simply show that, i.e. 1991 shows "B". I also find the "(-)" symbol very awkward. The colored box says the model was available in that year, the fact that there is no suffix in that box says it's the base model. Thirdly, I would only combine suffixes, not different models. Just my opinion in the "keep it simple" spirit. --Peter (talk) 06:37, 19 October 2023 (PDT)

Thanks - yeah - I just chose a random thing - but your explanation makes it clear that we don't need to worry about that null suffix at all. Qfissler (talk) 07:04, 19 October 2023 (PDT)

Maybe also put the R-Versions in?

Strange. As soon as I put this comment to the article, one row loses it colours (only) in the preview --13:07, 19 October 2023 (PDT)

I think it's because that row uses CSS and fails in preview for me, too.Qfissler (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2023 (PDT)

My idea was something more like the 7904 (sorry for messing up the table). Then the sorting by year would make more sense: which was the most expensive device in that year. You could see how prices develop. Problem: I used the prices "2022 Dollar". this will be no use in a few years. AND its a lot of work. So, any guess how the table can be kept up to date with litle work? Greetings --Rubasch (talk) 07:37, 25 October 2023 (PDT)

TM500 Multi-Meter

TM500 Multimeters
Name	Sale		Digits	True RMS	Voltage							Current				Resistance			Temperature			Diode Test	Auto Range	Rear Interface
	Start	End			Range DC [V]		Range AC [V]		Range AC [kHz]		dB	Range AC/DC [mA]		Range AC [kHz]		Range [kΩ]		HI/LO	Type	Range [°C]				Type	Input
	Start	End			min	max	min	max	min	max	dB	min	max	min	max	min	max	HI/LO	Type	min	max			Type	Input
DM501	1972	1980	4.5	-	(0.2) 2	1,000	2	500	0.040	10 (100)	-	2	2,000	0.040	10	2	20,000	-	NPN	-55	150	-	-	BCD out	YES
DM501A	1980	1984	4.5	YES	0.2	1,000	0.2	500	0.020	20	YES	0.2	2,000	0.020	10 (20)	0.2	20,000	YES	Pt-100	-62	240	-	-	-	YES
DM502	1975	1980	3.5	-	0.2	1,000	0.2	500	0.020	20 (100)	YES	0.2	2,000	0.040	10 (100)	0.2	20,000	-	NPN	-55	150	-	-	BCD out	YES
DM502A	1980	1988	3.5	YES	0.2	1,000	0.2	500	0.020	20 (100)	YES	0.2	2,000	0.040	10 (20)	0.2	20,000	YES	Pt-100	-55	200	-	YES	-	(YES)
DM504A	1989	?	4.5	YES	0.2	1,000	0.2	500	0.030	20	YES	0.2	2,000	0.030	10	0.2	20,000	-	Pt-100	-62	230	(YES)	YES	-	-
DM505	1980	?	3.5	-	0.2	1,000	0.2	500	0.025	20	YES	0.2	2,000	0.045	10 (20)	0.2	2,000	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	YES
DM511	1990	?	4.5	YES	0.2	1,000	0.2	500	0.020	50	YES	0.2	2,000	0.020	10	0.2	20,000	-	Pt-100	-62	240	-	YES	-	YES
DM5010	1982	?	4.5	YES	0.2	1,000	0.2	700	0.020	100	YES	-	-	-	-	0.2	20,000	-	-	-	-	YES	YES	GPIB	YES
DM5110	1990	?	4.5	YES	0.2	1,000	0.2	500	0.020	50	YES	0.2	2,000	0.020	10	0.2	20,000	-	Pt-100	-62	240	-	YES	GPIB	YES
DM5120	1989	1991	6.5	YES	0.3	300	0.3	300	0.020	100 (300)	YES	0.3	3,000	0.020	10	0.3	300,000	-	-	-	-	-	YES	GPIB	-

TM500 Power Supply

TM500 Power Supplies
Name	Sale		Output 1		Output 2		Output 3		Display		Output	Hi Power Compartment	Programmable
Name	Start	End	Voltage [V]	Current [A]	Voltage [V]	Current [A]	Voltage [V]	Current [A]	Voltage	Current	Switch	Hi Power Compartment	Voltage	Current
PS501	1972	1993	0 to 20	up to 0.4	-	-	5	1	-	LED Over current	YES	-	(Analog)	(Analog)
PS501-1	1972	1993	0 to 20	up to 0.4	-	-	5	1	mechanical readout	LED Over current	YES	-	(Analog)	(Analog)
PS501-2	1972	1993	0 to 20	up to 0.4	-	-	5	1	Analog	Analog	YES	-	(Analog)	(Analog)
PS502	1972	?	10 to 20	0.4	-10 to -20	0.4	5	1	-	LED Over current	YES	-	-	-
PS503	1972	?	0 to 20	up to 0.4	0 to -20	up to 0.4	5	1	-	LED Over current	YES	-	(Analog)	(Analog)
PS503M	1972	?	0 to 20	up to 0.4	0 to -20	up to 0.4	5	1	-	LED Over current	YES	-	(Analog)	(Analog)
PS503A	1976	1995	0 to 20	Up to 1	0 to -20	up to 1	5	1	-	LED Over current	YES	YES	Analog	-
PS505	1975	1977	3 to 5.5	Up to 4	-	-	-	-	-	-	YES	YES	Analog	Analog
PS5004	1984	1995	0 to 20	0.005 to 0.3	-	-	-	-	Digital	Digital	YES	-	GPIB	GPIB
PS5010	1982	1995	0 to 32	up to 1.6	0 to -32	up to 1.6	4.5 to 5.5	3	Digital	-	YES	YES	GPIB	GPIB

TM 500 Counter

TM500 Counters
Name	Sale		Channels	Frequency		Resolution	Timebase				Funktions									Rear Interface
	Sale			min	max	Resolution	Standard		Option 1		Frequency	Auto Range	Ratio A/B	Time A-->B	Period	width	Totalize Events	Rise fall	Average cycles	Type	input
	Start	End		[HZ]	[MHZ]	[digits]	[MHz]	[ppm]	[MHz]	[ppm]	Frequency	Auto Range	Ratio A/B	Time A-->B	Period	width	Totalize Events	Rise fall	Average cycles	Type	input
DC501	1972	1980	1	10	100	7	1	±10	5	±0.5	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	BCD out	YES
DC502	1972	1977	1	10	550	7	1	±10	5	±0.5	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	BCD out	-
DC503	1972	1981	2	0.1	100	7	1	±0.1	5	±0.005?	YES	-	YES	YES	YES	-	YES	-	10⁶	BCD out	YES
DC503A	1981	1993	2	0	125	8	10	±0.1	10	±0.02	YES	-	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	10⁸	BCD out	YES
DC504	1975	1983	1	0	80	5	1	±10	5	±0.5	YES	-	-	-	YES	-	YES	-	-	BCD out	YES
DC504A	1984	1993	1	0	100	6	10	±0.1	-	-	YES	YES	-	-	YES	YES	YES	-	?	-	YES
DC505	1974	1976	2	0	225	7	1	±10	5	±0.5	YES	-	-	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	10⁵	BCD out	YES
DC505A	1976	1981	2	0	225	7	1	±10	5	±0.5	YES	-	-	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	10⁵	BCD out	YES
DC508	1978	1980	1	0	1000	9	10	±5	10	±0.2	YES	-	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	BCD out	YES
DC508A	1980	?	1	0	1300	9	10	±5	10	±0.2	YES	-	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	BCD out	YES
DC509	1981	?	2	0,0001	135	8	10	±0.1	10	±0.02	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	10⁸	?	YES
DC510	1982	1993	2	0	350	9	10	±0.1	10	±0.02	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	10⁹	-	-
DC5004	1989	?	1	0	100	?	?	±10	?	±0.5	YES	-	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	GPIB?	?
DC5009	1982	1993	2	0,0001	135	8	10	±0.1	10	±0.02	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	10⁸	GPIB	YES
DC5010	1982	1993	2	0	350	9	10	±0.1	10	±0.02	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	10⁹	GPIB

TM 500 Generators

Name	Type	Sale		Chanel	Frequency Range		Wave Forms							Pulse				Symmetry	Rise/Fall		DC-Offset		Output Voltage		Output	Modulation			Sweep							Output
		Start	End		Frequency Range		Sine	Square	Triangle	Ramp	Pulse	Arbitrary	White	Period		Duration		Duty Cycle	min	max	50 Ohm	Open	50 Ohm	Open	Current	AM	FM	VCF	Trig.	min	max	Decades	lin	log	Ramp	Trigger	Rear	Gate
		Start	End		[Hz]	[MHz]							Noise	[ns]	[s]	[ns]	[s]	[%]	[ns]	[ms]	[V]	[V]	[Vpp]	[Vpp]	[mA]					[ms]	[s]				out			in
FG501	Function generator	1972	?	1	0.01	1	YES	YES	YES	1/10	1/10	-	-	1000	100	500	50	-	100	-	±5	±7.5	10pp	20pp	?	-		X	-			(3)	(X)	(X)	-	X	-	X
FG501A	Function generator	?	1993	1	0.002	2	YES	YES	YES	1/10	1/10	-	-	500	500	25	25	5-95	25	-	?	?	?	30pp	?	-		X	-			(3)	(X)	(X)	-	X	-	X
FG502	Function generator	1974	1993	1	0.1	11	YES	YES	YES	1/10	1/10	-	-	909	100	45.5	5	5; 50; 95	20	-	±2.5	±5	5pp	10pp	?	-		X	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	X	-	X
FG503	Function generator	1974	1993	1	1 (0.01)	3 (5)	YES	YES	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	50	60	-	±3.75	±7.5	10pp	20pp	?	-		X	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	X	-	-
FG504	Function generator	1976	1993	1	0.001	40	YES	YES	YES	1/10	1/10	-	-	250	1000	17.5	930	7-97	6	100	±3.75	±7.5	15pp	30pp	?	X		X	X	0.1	10	4	X	X	X	X	-	X
FG507	Function generator	1980	1989	1	0.002	2	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	-					5-95	25	-	?	±13	±15	±30		-		X	X	0.1	10	3	X	X	X	X	-	X
RG501	Ramp Generator	1972	1982	1	-	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	10000	10000	-	-		±10		-		-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
AFG5101	Function generator	1988	1991	1	1µ	12	YES	YES	YES			YES	-					YES	15		4.49	8.98	±9.99	±19.98		X	X	X		0.1	999.9	4	X	X	X		GPIB
AFG5102	Function generator	1993	1994	1	0.02	20	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-					10-90	12		YES	YES	±15	±30		X		X		YES	YES	YES	X	X			GPIB
AWG5102	Waveform generator	1992	?	1	0.001	1	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-					10-90	20		YES	YES	9.99	?		X		X		-	-	-	-	-			GPIB
AWG5105	Waveform generator	1993	1995	1/2	1µ	25	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES					10-90	15		?	±7.5	±15	±30		X											GPIB
FG5010	Function generator	1982	1991	1	2m	20	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	-					10-91	10					±20		X	X	X	-	-	-	-	-	-
PFG5105	Pulse Function generator		?	1	0.012	12	YES	YES	YES	YES	YES	-	-	83	83.3	10	10	<99	15		4.49	8.98	9.99	19.98		X	X	X					x	x			GPIB
PG501	Pulse Generator	1972	1993	Double	5	50	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	20	0.2	10	0.1	< 70	3.5				5
PG502	Pulse Generator	1974	1993	1	10	250	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	4	0.1	2	0.05	< 50	1		±5		5
PG503	Pulse Generator	1990	?	Double	10	250	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	4	0.1	2	0.05	< 50	0.2		±2.5		2.5
PG504	Pulse Generator	?	?	Double	1000	0.1	-	-	-	-	YES
PG505	Pulse Generator	1974	?	1	1	0.1	-	-	-	-	YES			10	0.1	5000	0.05		1000	1		80
PG506	Calibration Generator	1974	1993	1	?	1								1000	0.01			50	1			100	±5	±100
PG507	Pulse Generator	1981	?	Double	5	50	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	20	0.2	10	0.1	<70	3.5				±7.5	±15
PG508	Pulse Generator	?	?	Double	5	50	-	-	-	-	YES	-	-	20	0.2	10	0.1	< 70	5.5	50	±10		10			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		-
PG509	Pulse Generator	?	?	1		0.05	-	-	-	-		-	-			44	-		0.35				25			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		-
TG501	Time Mark Generator	1974	1990	1			-	-	-	-		-	-	1	5						-	-	1			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		-
TG501A	Time Mark Generator	1990	1995	1			-	-	-	-		-	-	1	5						-	-	1			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		-
PG5110	Pulse Generator	1991	?	2	0.1	50	-	-	-	-	YES			20	10	10	10	1-99	6	100	±10		10	±20		-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		GPIB
067-1094-99	Pulse Generator	1983	?	1		0.05	-	-	-	-						40			0.4				25			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		-
High Amplitude Pulse Generator		?	?
067-1046-01		?	?
CG551AP		1980	?
SG502		1972	1993	1	5	0.5	YES	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		50		-	-		5 rms		-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-		-
SG503		1974	1993	1	50000	250	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	5pp			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
SG504		1974	1993	1	50000	1050	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	4pp			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
SG505		1980	1993	2	10	0.1	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-				-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
SW503		1976	1978	1	1	400	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-				-	-				X	X			10	10
CG5001	Calibration Generator	1983	?	1	10	1					YES								1.3				5	200	100
CG5010	Calibration Generator	?	?								YES
CG5011	Calibration Generator	?	?								YES
SG5010		?	?	1	10	0.1638	YES	YES					-						1500					21.2 rms
SG5030		1991	?	1	0.1	550	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-			5.5			-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	GPIB
SG5050		?	?	1	10000	2500	YES	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-						-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	GPIB

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 | 1974
 | 1993
@@ Line 1,774: / Line 1,774: @@
 |-
 | [[PG503]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | 1990
 | ?
@@ Line 1,814: / Line 1,814: @@
 |-
 | [[PG504]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | ?
 | ?
@@ Line 1,854: / Line 1,854: @@
 |-
 | [[PG505]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | 1974
 | ?
@@ Line 1,934: / Line 1,934: @@
 |-
 | [[PG507]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | 1981
 | ?
@@ Line 1,974: / Line 1,974: @@
 |-
 | [[PG508]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | ?
 | ?
@@ Line 2,014: / Line 2,014: @@
 |-
 | [[PG509]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | ?
 | ?
@@ Line 2,134: / Line 2,134: @@
 |-
 | [[PG5110]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | 1991
 | ?
@@ Line 2,174: / Line 2,174: @@
 |-
 | [[067-1094-99]]
-| Puls Generator
+| Pulse Generator
 | 1983
 | ?