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7000 Overview Table

Hi, I've extended the table a bit, what do you say?

Is writing speed in cm/μs not a cleaner spec than div/μs?
Can you add the digitizers please?
--Peter (talk) 08:11, 20 September 2023 (PDT)
  • Mostly I found div/µs, that's why I used it. but we can change it of course.
  • Done the digitizer. Kinda. Maybe they belong in another table with better fitting details (sample rate, resolution, etc.)
  • Barrytech said there is no R7704A http://www.barrytech.com/tektronix/tek7000/tekr7704.html. should we delete it?
checked in catalogs - the R7704 remained non-A and was available until 1985 -- Peter
  • about the 7603: what is "some" cooling? :-)
some models, as noted on the page --Peter
  • are you sure with the 7623B writing speed? should it not more like the 7633?
spec from 1991 catalog, p.68 --Peter
I love the table! I came here to mention that I have a 7704A with a cooling fan - but you also have the question re the 7603. The weirdest thing is that the 7704A service manual makes no mention of a fan! This led me down a bit of a rabbit hole of reading... I'd not be surprised if some 7603s had cooling fans. I thought that there might have been a period they tried some fans before Tek change from linear PSUs to the more efficient switching PSUs - I've found no data. Qfissler (talk) 12:24, 20 September 2023 (PDT)
I've condensed the writing speed columns into two less, and added some of the missing data from my notes. --Peter (talk) 10:12, 21 September 2023 (PDT)
Looks a lot better! Thank you for your effort. --Rubasch (talk) 00:07, 22 September 2023 (PDT)

On the page 7000-series scopes there are production dates for the digitizers. But there is no source for that information... --Rubasch (talk) 10:59, 22 September 2023 (PDT)


7000 Time Table

7000 time table
Scope Bandwith
[MHz] 		Years of
Sales 		Start
of Sales 		End
of Sales 		1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992
7313 25 8 1972 1979 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7403N 65 6 1970 1975 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7403N 65 5 1971 1975 1 1 1 1 1
7503 90 3 1970 1972 1 1 1
7504 90 3 1969 1971 1 1 1
7514 90 5 1970 1974 1 1 1 1 1
7603 100 19 1972 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7603 100 18 1973 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7613 100 19 1972 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7613 100 18 1973 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7623(A,B) 100 4 1972 1992       A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A B B
7623 100 4 1972 1975 1 1 (-) 1
R7623 100 2 1973 1974 1 1
7623A 100 16 1975 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7623A 100 17 1975 1991 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7623B 100 2 1991 1992 B B
R7623B 100 2 1991 1992 B B
7633 100 16 1975 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7633 100 16 1975 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7704 150 4 1969 1972 1 1 1 1
R7704 150 16 1970 1985 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7704A 200 16 1972 1987 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7834 400 10 1977 1986 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7844 400 15 1974 1988 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7844 400 18 1975 1992 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7854 400 11 1980 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7904 500 13 1971 1983 19,500 $ 1 1 1 20,300 $ 1 1 1 21,400 $ 1 1 1 1
R7903 500 9 1974 1982 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7904A 500 7 1984 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7934 500 4 1987 1990 1 1 1 1
7104 1000 13 1978 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7103 1000 6 1985 1990 1 1 1 1 1 1
7D20 70 11 1982 1992 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7612D 90 9 1980 1988 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
R7912 500 6 1973 1978 1 1 1 1 1 1
7912AD 500 10 1978 1987 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
7912HB 750 3 1987 1989 1 1 1
P7001 175 9 1973 1981 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
No Storage
Analog Storage
Digital Storage
Dual Beam
Unknown

Quick edit in the table generator:

No Storage
Analog Storage
Digital Storage
Dual Beam
Unknown


What do think about condensing the information like in the example I have added above, 7623 (A,B)?

--Peter (talk) 03:36, 19 October 2023 (PDT)
I like it - but in that form, it loses a little bit of info where the 7623 with no suffix was available while the 7623A was also available - it's easy combining A and B by comma separating - but a null suffix... how would we show that? Hmmm - I tried (-) - just to show what I mean. Qfissler (talk) 04:48, 19 October 2023 (PDT)
I also thought about combining scopes like the 7834--> 7934 but not sure if it still makes sense. Right now have not a lot of time for this. So everybody feel free to edit! --Rubasch (talk) 05:30, 19 October 2023 (PDT)
We know from catalogs or announcements in ads, articles in TekScope etc. when new models came out. There is no comparable hard info on discontinuation - mostly this comes from models no longer appearing in catalogs. I think it is therefore not meaningful to infer from the model pages that there was any sort of overlap - at some time in 1991 you got a 7623B, whether there's a theoretical choice that you could have requested a 7623A as well is not substantiated by the information we have collected – therefore the box for the first year when the newer model came out would simply show that, i.e. 1991 shows "B". I also find the "(-)" symbol very awkward. The colored box says the model was available in that year, the fact that there is no suffix in that box says it's the base model. Thirdly, I would only combine suffixes, not different models. Just my opinion in the "keep it simple" spirit. --Peter (talk) 06:37, 19 October 2023 (PDT)
Thanks - yeah - I just chose a random thing - but your explanation makes it clear that we don't need to worry about that null suffix at all. Qfissler (talk) 07:04, 19 October 2023 (PDT)
Maybe also put the R-Versions in?
Strange. As soon as I put this comment to the article, one row loses it colours (only) in the preview --13:07, 19 October 2023 (PDT)
I think it's because that row uses CSS and fails in preview for me, too.Qfissler (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2023 (PDT)
My idea was something more like the 7904 (sorry for messing up the table). Then the sorting by year would make more sense: which was the most expensive device in that year. You could see how prices develop. Problem: I used the prices "2022 Dollar". this will be no use in a few years. AND its a lot of work. So, any guess how the table can be kept up to date with litle work? Greetings --Rubasch (talk) 07:37, 25 October 2023 (PDT)

TM500 Multi-Meter

TM500 Multimeters
Name Sale Digits True
RMS 		Voltage Ranges Current Ranges Resistance Ranges Temperature Diode
Test 		Auto
Range 		Rear Interface
Start End DC [V] AC [V] dB AC/DC [mA] [kΩ] HI/LO Type Input
DM501 1972 1980 4.5 - (0.2) 2 20 200 1,000 - 2 20 200 500 - - 2 20 200 2,000 - 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - - NPN - - BCD out YES
DM501A 1980 1984 4.5 YES 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 500 YES 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - YES Pt-100 - - - YES
DM502 1975 1980 3.5 - 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 500 YES 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - - NPN - - BCD out YES
DM502A 1980 1988 3.5 YES 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 500 YES 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - YES Pt-100 - YES - (YES)
DM504A 1989 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 500 YES 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - - Pt-100 (YES) YES - -
DM505 1980 ? 3.5 - 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 500 YES 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 - - YES - - - - YES
DM511 1990 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 500 YES 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - - Pt-100 - YES - YES
DM5010 1982 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 700 YES - - - - - 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - - - YES YES GPIB YES
DM5110 1990 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 2 20 200 1,000 0.2 2 20 200 500 YES 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 0.2 2 20 200 2,000 20,000 - - Pt-100 - YES GPIB YES
DM5120 1989 1991 6.5 YES 0.3 3 30 300 - 0.3 3 30 300 - YES 0.3 3 30 300 3,000 0.3 3 30 300 3,000 30,000 300,000 - - - YES GPIB -


TM500 Multimeters
Name Sale Digits True
RMS 		Voltage Current Resistance Temperature [°C] Diode
Test 		Auto
Range 		Rear Interface
Start End Range DC [V] Range AC [V] dB [Hz] [KHz] Range AC/DC [mA] [Hz] [KHz] Range [kΩ] HI/LO Type min max Type Input
DM501 1972 1980 4.5 - (0.2) 2 1,000 2 500 - 40 10 (100) 2 2,000 40 10 2 20,000 - NPN -55 150 - - BCD out YES
DM501A 1980 1984 4.5 YES 0.2 1,000 0.2 500 YES 20 20 0.2 2,000 20 10 (20) 0.2 20,000 YES Pt-100 -62 240 - - - YES
DM502 1975 1980 3.5 - 0.2 1,000 0.2 500 YES 20 20 (100) 0.2 2,000 40 10 (100) 0.2 20,000 - NPN -55 150 - - BCD out YES
DM502A 1980 1988 3.5 YES 0.2 1,000 0.2 500 YES 20 20 (100) 0.2 2,000 40 10 (20) 0.2 20,000 YES Pt-100 -55 200 - YES - (YES)
DM504A 1989 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 1,000 0.2 500 YES 30 20 0.2 2,000 30 10 0.2 20,000 - Pt-100 -62 230 (YES) YES - -
DM505 1980 ? 3.5 - 0.2 1,000 0.2 500 YES 25 20 0.2 2,000 45 10 (20) 0.2 2,000 YES - - - - - - YES
DM511 1990 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 1,000 0.2 500 YES 20 50 0.2 2,000 20 10 0.2 20,000 - Pt-100 -62 240 - YES - YES
DM5010 1982 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 1,000 0.2 700 YES 20 100 - - - - 0.2 20,000 - - - - YES YES GPIB YES
DM5110 1990 ? 4.5 YES 0.2 1,000 0.2 500 YES 20 50 0.2 2,000 20 10 0.2 20,000 - Pt-100 -62 240 - YES GPIB YES
DM5120 1989 1991 6.5 YES 0.3 300 0.3 300 YES 20 100 (300) 0.3 3,000 20 10 0.3 300,000 - - - - - YES GPIB -

TM500 Power Supply

TM500 Power Supplies
Name Sale Output 1 Output 2 Output 3 Display Output Hi Power
Compartment
 Programmable
Start End Voltage [V] Current [A] Voltage [V] Current [A] Voltage [V] Current [A] Voltage Current Switch Voltage Current
PS501 1972 1993 0 to 20 up to 0.4 - - 5 1 - LED Over current YES - (Analog) (Analog)
PS501-1 1972 1993 0 to 20 up to 0.4 - - 5 1 mechanical readout LED Over current YES - (Analog) (Analog)
PS501-2 1972 1993 0 to 20 up to 0.4 - - 5 1 Analog Analog YES - (Analog) (Analog)
PS502 1972 ? 10 to 20 0.4 -10 to -20 0.4 5 1 - LED Over current YES - - -
PS503 1972 ? 0 to 20 up to 0.4 0 to -20 up to 0.4 5 1 - LED Over current YES - (Analog) (Analog)
PS503M 1972 ? 0 to 20 up to 0.4 0 to -20 up to 0.4 5 1 - LED Over current YES - (Analog) (Analog)
PS503A 1976 1995 0 to 20 Up to 1 0 to -20 up to 1 5 1 - LED Over current YES YES Analog -
PS505 1975 1977 3 to 5.5 Up to 4 - - - - - - YES YES Analog Analog
PS5004 1984 1995 0 to 20 0.005 to 0.3 - - - - Digital Digital YES - GPIB GPIB
PS5010 1982 1995 0 to 32 up to 1.6 0 to -32 up to 1.6 4.5 to 5.5 3 Digital - YES YES GPIB GPIB

TM 500 Counter

TM500 Counters
Name Sale Channels Frequency Resolution Timebase Funktions Rear Interface
min max Standard Option 1 Frequency Auto
Range 		Ratio
A/B 		Time
A-->B 		Period width Totalize
Events 		Rise
fall 		Average
cycles 		Type input
Start End [HZ] [MHZ] [digits] [MHz] [ppm] [MHz] [ppm]
DC501 1972 1980 1 10 100 7 1 ±10 5 ±0.5 YES - - - - - - - - BCD out YES
DC502 1972 1977 1 10 550 7 1 ±10 5 ±0.5 YES - - - - - - - - BCD out -
DC503 1972 1981 2 0.1 100 7 1 ±0.1 5 ±0.005? YES - YES YES YES - YES - 106 BCD out YES
DC503A 1981 1993 2 0 125 8 10 ±0.1 10 ±0.02 YES - YES YES YES YES YES - 108 BCD out YES
DC504 1975 1983 1 0 80 5 1 ±10 5 ±0.5 YES - - - YES - YES - - BCD out YES
DC504A 1984 1993 1 0 100 6 10 ±0.1 - - YES YES - - YES YES YES - ? - YES
DC505 1974 1976 2 0 225 7 1 ±10 5 ±0.5 YES - - YES YES YES YES - 105 BCD out YES
DC505A 1976 1981 2 0 225 7 1 ±10 5 ±0.5 YES - - YES YES YES YES - 105 BCD out YES
DC508 1978 1980 1 0 1000 9 10 ±5 10 ±0.2 YES - - - - - YES - - BCD out YES
DC508A 1980 ? 1 0 1300 9 10 ±5 10 ±0.2 YES - - - - - YES - - BCD out YES
DC509 1981 ? 2 0,0001 135 8 10 ±0.1 10 ±0.02 YES YES YES YES YES YES YES - 108 ? YES
DC510 1982 1993 2 0 350 9 10 ±0.1 10 ±0.02 YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES 109 - -
DC5004 1989 ? 1 0 100 ? ? ±10 ? ±0.5 YES - ? ? ? ? ? ? ? GPIB? ?
DC5009 1982 1993 2 0,0001 135 8 10 ±0.1 10 ±0.02 YES YES YES YES YES YES YES - 108 GPIB YES
DC5010 1982 1993 2 0 350 9 10 ±0.1 10 ±0.02 YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES 109 GPIB

TM 500 Generators

Name Type Sale Chanel Frequency
Range 		Wave Forms Pulse Symmetry Rise/Fall DC-Offset Output Voltage Output Modulation Sweep Output
Start End Sine Square Triangle Ramp Pulse Arbitrary White Period Duration Duty Cycle min max 50 Ohm Open 50 Ohm Open Current AM FM VCF Trig. min max Decades lin log Ramp Trigger Rear Gate
[Hz] [MHz] Noise [ns] [s] [ns] [s] [%] [ns] [ms] [V] [V] [Vpp] [Vpp] [mA] [ms] [s] out in
FG501 Function generator 1972 ? 1 0.01 1 YES YES YES 1/10 1/10 - - 1000 100 500 50 - 100 - ±5 ±7.5 10pp 20pp ? - X - (3) (X) (X) - X - X
FG501A Function generator ? 1993 1 0.002 2 YES YES YES 1/10 1/10 - - 500 500 25 25 5-95 25 - ? ? ? 30pp ? - X - (3) (X) (X) - X - X
FG502 Function generator 1974 1993 1 0.1 11 YES YES YES 1/10 1/10 - - 909 100 45.5 5 5; 50; 95 20 - ±2.5 ±5 5pp 10pp ? - X - - - - - - - X - X
FG503 Function generator 1974 1993 1 1 (0.01) 3 (5) YES YES YES - - - - - - - - 50 60 - ±3.75 ±7.5 10pp 20pp ? - X - - - - - - - X - -
FG504 Function generator 1976 1993 1 0.001 40 YES YES YES 1/10 1/10 - - 250 1000 17.5 930 7-97 6 100 ±3.75 ±7.5 15pp 30pp ? X X X 0.1 10 4 X X X X - X
FG507 Function generator 1980 1989 1 0.002 2 YES YES YES YES YES - - 5-95 25 - ? ±13 ±15 ±30 - X X 0.1 10 3 X X X X - X
RG501 Ramp Generator 1972 1982 1 - - - - - YES - - - - - - - - 10000 10000 - - ±10 - - - - - - - - - -
AFG5101 Function generator 1988 1991 1 1µ 12 YES YES YES YES - YES 15 4.49 8.98 ±9.99 ±19.98 X X X 0.1 999.9 4 X X X GPIB
AFG5102 Function generator 1993 1994 1 0.02 20 YES YES YES YES YES YES - 10-90 12 YES YES ±15 ±30 X X YES YES YES X X GPIB
AWG5102 Waveform generator 1992 ? 1 0.001 1 YES YES YES YES YES YES - 10-90 20 YES YES 9.99 ? X X - - - - - GPIB
AWG5105 Waveform generator 1993 1995 1/2 1µ 25 YES YES YES YES YES YES YES 10-90 15 ? ±7.5 ±15 ±30 X GPIB
FG5010 Function generator 1982 1991 1 2m 20 YES YES YES YES YES - - 10-91 10 ±20 X X X - - - - - -
PFG5105 Puls Function generator ? 1 0.012 12 YES YES YES YES YES - - 83 83.3 10 10 <99 15 4.49 8.98 9.99 19.98 X X X x x GPIB
PG501 Puls Generator 1972 1993 Double 5 50 - - - - YES - - 20 0.2 10 0.1 < 70 3.5 5
PG502 Puls Generator 1974 1993 1 10 250 - - - - YES - - 4 0.1 2 0.05 < 50 1 ±5 5
PG503 Puls Generator 1990 ? Double 10 250 - - - - YES - - 4 0.1 2 0.05 < 50 0.2 ±2.5 2.5
PG504 Puls Generator ? ? Double 1000 0.1 - - - - YES
PG505 Puls Generator 1974 ? 1 1 0.1 - - - - YES 10 0.1 5000 0.05 1000 1 80
PG506 Calibration Generator 1974 1993 1 ? 1 1000 0.01 50 1 100 ±5 ±100
PG507 Puls Generator 1981 ? Double 5 50 - - - - YES - - 20 0.2 10 0.1 <70 3.5 ±7.5 ±15
PG508 Puls Generator ? ? Double 5 50 - - - - YES - - 20 0.2 10 0.1 < 70 5.5 50 ±10 10 - - - - - - - - - - -
PG509 Puls Generator ? ? 1 0.05 - - - - - - 44 - 0.35 25 - - - - - - - - - - -
TG501 Time Mark Generator 1974 1990 1 - - - - - - 1 5 - - 1 - - - - - - - - - - -
TG501A Time Mark Generator 1990 1995 1 - - - - - - 1 5 - - 1 - - - - - - - - - - -
PG5110 Puls Generator 1991 ? 2 0.1 50 - - - - YES 20 10 10 10 1-99 6 100 ±10 10 ±20 - - - - - - - - - - GPIB
067-1094-99 Puls Generator 1983 ? 1 0.05 - - - - 40 0.4 25 - - - - - - - - - - -
High Amplitude Pulse Generator ? ?
067-1046-01 ? ?
CG551AP 1980 ?
SG502 1972 1993 1 5 0.5 YES YES - - - - - - - - - 50 - - 5 rms - - - - - - - - - - -
SG503 1974 1993 1 50000 250 YES - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5pp - - - - - - - - - - - -
SG504 1974 1993 1 50000 1050 YES - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4pp - - - - - - - - - - - -
SG505 1980 1993 2 10 0.1 YES - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
SW503 1976 1978 1 1 400 YES - - - - - - - - - - - - X X 10 10
CG5001 Calibration Generator 1983 ? 1 10 1 YES 1.3 5 200 100
CG5010 Calibration Generator ? ? YES
CG5011 Calibration Generator ? ? YES
SG5010 ? ? 1 10 0.1638 YES YES - 1500 21.2 rms
SG5030 1991 ? 1 0.1 550 YES - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5.5 - - - - - - - - - - - GPIB
SG5050 ? ? 1 10000 2500 YES - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GPIB
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