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[[ | |manufacturer=Tektronix | ||
The 585 uses [[580-series plug-ins]] | |series=580-series scopes | ||
which look like [[letter-series and 1-series plug-ins]] | |model=585 | ||
but are electrically different, | |image=Tek-585-82.jpg | ||
|caption=Tektronix 585 with [[82|Type 82]] plug-in | |||
|introduced=1959 | |||
|discontinued=1972 | |||
|summary=100 (95) MHz oscilloscope | |||
|designers=John Gates; | |||
|manuals= | |||
* [[Media:070-171.pdf|Tektronix 585 Manual]] (OCR) | |||
* [[Media:070-0391-01.pdf|Tektronix 585A Manual]] | |||
* ''[[Media:070-392.pdf|070-392 RM585A Manual needed]]'' | |||
* [[Media:070-427.pdf|Tektronix 585A Operator's Manual]] (4"×5") | |||
<small> | |||
'''Calibration''' | |||
* [[Media:Service Scope 39 Aug 1966.pdf|580 series gain adjustment procedure, in Service Scope 39, Aug 1966]] | |||
* [https://w140.com/tek_fcp/tek_585_fac_cal.pdf Tektronix 585 Factory Calibration Procedure, June 1961] | |||
* [[Media:Tek 585a fcp nov 1968.pdf|Tektronix 585A Factor Calibration Procedure, November 1968]] | |||
'''Modifications''' | |||
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20170727004536/http://www.reprise.com/host/tektronix/reference/581_relay.asp Power supply Mod (From Stan's website, archived)] | |||
</small> | |||
}} | |||
The '''Tektronix 585''' is a 100 MHz [[580-series scopes|580-Series scope]] that Tektronix [[introduced in 1959]]. | |||
It was designed by [[John Gates]]. | |||
The [[581]] is the same with a single timebase. | |||
The 585A facelift model was introduced in 1963 and discontinued after 1971. | |||
The 58x series were the first Tek scopes with [[distributed deflection plates]], the first Tek scopes to use a cross-wound continuous delay line, and the last with a [[distributed amplifier]]. | |||
At 100 MHz (down-rated to 95 MHz in 1962 and 85 MHz for the 585A in 1963) with the [[80|Type 80 plug-in]] and up to 85 MHz with the dual-channel [[82|Type 82]], they were the highest-speed general purpose scopes of Tek's tube scope era. (The 1 GHz [[519]] was specialized with no vertical amplifier.) | |||
The 585's front panel layout is almost identical to the [[545A]] that came out at the same time. The 585 also shares internal construction and circuits such as the power supply with the [[535]]/[[545]] line of scopes. | |||
__TOC__ | |||
{{BeginSpecs}} | |||
{{Spec | Rise time | 3.5 ns with [[80 | Type 80]] plugin and [[P80|P80 probe]] }} | |||
{{Spec | Timebase A | 50 ns/Div to 2 s/Div, 1−2−5, variable ×2.5, magnifier ×5, single sweep; X input }} | |||
{{Spec | Timebase B | 2 μs/Div to 1 s/Div, 1−2−5, can delay timebase A by 1 μs to 10 s }} | |||
{{Spec | CRT | [[T581]], distributed vertical deflection plates, 10 kV acceleration }} | |||
{{Spec | Outputs | A Sawtooth, A Gate, B Gate, Calibrator (0.2 mV to 100 V<sub>p-p</sub>, 1−2−5) }} | |||
{{Spec | Power | 107−127 or 214−234 V<sub>AC</sub>, 50-60 Hz, 890 VA / 710 W}} | |||
{{Spec | Dimensions | (W/L/H) 330×610×432 mm³ (13"×24"×17") }} | |||
{{EndSpecs}} | |||
==585A differences== | |||
The 585A uses a tunnel-diode trigger circuit (see below), adds HF Sync and AC LF reject modes to the timebase A trigger selector, and adds a [[trace rotation]] coil. | |||
==Links== | |||
* [https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/tektronix_crt_oscilloscope_585.html Tek 585] @ radiomuseum.org | |||
* [https://youtube.com/watch?v=RvemavylsCI Inside a Tek 585A] @ YouTube | |||
==History== | |||
[https://vintagetek.org/my-early-tektronix-days-by-john-kobbe-2/ John Kobbe said]: | |||
<blockquote> | |||
Later on there was another special CRT designed with [[distributed deflection plates|distributed vertical deflection]] for the 100 Megahertz 580 (well almost 100 MHz). | |||
The 580 was the first, at least at Tek, to use a cross wound continuous signal [[delay line]]. | |||
The 580 used a similar horizontal system lifted from the 530s which was too slow and [had] insufficient writing rate. | |||
The [[P80|active probe]] and [[580 Series plug-in interface|plug in system]] left a lot to be desired. I wasn’t very proud of the 580 design as it was too compromised. | |||
</blockquote> | |||
==Internals== | |||
=== Plug-in Interface === | |||
The 585 uses [[580-series plug-ins]] which look like [[letter-series and 1-series plug-ins]] | |||
but are electrically different. The main difference is the impedance of the signal that passes | |||
through the interface from the plug-in to the mainframe. | |||
In 530/540/550-series scopes, the plug-in expects the mainframe to be a high impedance load, | |||
driving tube grids in the mainframe. | |||
The [[580 Series plug-in interface]], on the other hand, presents a differential transmission line | |||
input with an impedance of 93 Ω per side, going into the first distributed amplifier stage. The | |||
other end of this transmission line is returned to the plug-in for termination and biasing. | |||
The [[580 Series plug-in interface|pin-out of the interface connector]] is also different, | |||
the 580-series pin-out being essentially flipped 180° from its 530/540/550 series counterparts | |||
(''Signal Out'' is between pins 14 and 16 as opposed to between pins 1 and 3, etc.) | |||
The [[81|Type 81]] adapter allows the use of letter-series and 1-series plug-ins in a 585. | The [[81|Type 81]] adapter allows the use of letter-series and 1-series plug-ins in a 585. | ||
=== Trigger Circuit === | |||
The original 585 (up to serial number 1070) has an "A" trigger circuit that has a differential | The original 585 (up to serial number 1070) has an "A" trigger circuit that has a differential | ||
trigger amplifier made of a pair of [[6EW6]] | trigger amplifier made of a pair of [[6EW6]] miniature pentodes, followed by a Schmitt trigger | ||
made of a pair of miniature dual triode tubes. | made of a pair of miniature dual triode tubes. | ||
Starting at serial number 1071 (and sometimes retrofitted to earlier instruments), the dual-triode | |||
circuit | Schmitt trigger circuit was replaced by an [[STD615]] 10 mA [[tunnel diodes|tunnel diode]] AC-coupled to the base-emitter junction of an [[OC171]] germanium PNP transistor as a pulse amplifier. | ||
The slower "B" timebase uses a Schmitt trigger circuit. | |||
* [http:// | === Vertical Signal Path === | ||
Like the [[545]], [[551]], and [[555]], the 585 uses two [[distributed amplifier]]s in the vertical signal path, one with seven differential [[6DJ8]] stages driving a helically-wound, differential [[delay line]], followed by a five-stage differential distributed driver amplifier and a [[7699]] or [[6939]] dual tetrode power stage driving the CRT. | |||
Unlike the other 500-series scopes, the 585 uses a CRT with [[distributed vertical deflection plates]], the [[T581]], enabling it to have both fast rise time and high sensitivity (~5 V/cm vertically), albeit at the cost of limiting vertical deflection to slightly over 4 cm. Total acceleration voltage is 10 kV. | |||
Several improvements were published for the 585 circuitry, including the enhanced trigger circuit. | |||
If all of those changes are applied to a 585, it is essentially a 585A. | |||
After serial number 2585, the back termination of the final distributed amplifier output was made adjustable. | |||
The manual says this (field-installable) modification (040-275) is "required for proper operation of plug-ins with numbers above [[81|Type 81]]". Non-A instruments with this termination have a front panel label reading "standardized vertical". | |||
===Power Supply=== | |||
The 585 power supply is similar to other Tek scopes of the era such as the [[549]]. A linear regulator with a [[5651]] reference tube, a [[12AX7]]/[[6AU6]] error amplifier and three parallel [[12B4]] series pass tubes produces −150 V. | |||
This is the only adjustable rail, all other regulated voltages are referenced to it. | |||
The +100 V and +350 V regulators use half a [[6080]] each as the pass element, the +225 V two. | |||
In the +500 V path, a [[12B4]] performs this function. | |||
The unregulated +325 V input to the 225 V regulator is used to supply the HV oscillator, a [[6AU5]]. | |||
A transistor-based regulator supplies a +12.6 V heater voltage to the plug-in. | |||
A [[delay relay|6NO45 delay relay]] controls a multi-contact relay to switch supply voltages on only after the tubes are warmed up. | |||
When the main relay engages, the delay relay is cut out so it will be ready to delay again even after a quick interrupt in power input. | |||
The 12.6 V power supply is referenced to the +100 V regulated output. Since +100 V is not available during the warm-up period, an unregulated +100 V (~+180 V) is fed as the reference to the 12.6 V power supply during the warm-up period, then cut out by the multi-contact relay post warmup. | |||
The 585 contains a 53°C (128°F) [[thermal cutoff]]. | |||
The power transformer, T601, is Tektronix part number [[120-0141-00]]. | |||
===Semiconductors=== | |||
The 585 uses semiconductor diodes as rectifiers and germanium transistors in the 12.6 V power supply, and except for unmodified instruments before SN 1070, a tunnel diode and another germanium transistor in the time base A trigger circuit. | |||
=== Rackmount Versions === | |||
Rackmount versions were also made, the RM585 and RM585A. | |||
===Circuit Variants=== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
<!-- Header --> | |||
! colspan="3" | Some changes across 585 and 585A | |||
|- | |||
! | |||
! 585 | |||
! 585A | |||
<!-- End Header --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;" | |||
! rowspan="2" | A-Trigger | |||
| SN up to 1070 | |||
*[[6EW6]] Trigger comparator. | |||
*[[6DJ8]] Trigger multivibrator | |||
| rowspan="2" | | |||
*Tunnel diode trigger | |||
*PNP trigger amplifier [[2N2048]] | |||
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;" | |||
| SN 1071 up | |||
*Tunnel diode trigger | |||
*PNP trigger amplifier [[OC171]] | |||
<!-- End Section --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|- | |||
!Sweep Generator | |||
| Standard | |||
| SN 120000 up | |||
D152/252 added to [[6AL5]] disconnect diodes | |||
<!-- End section --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;" | |||
! rowspan="2"| 12.6 V Power | |||
| SN up to 3762 | |||
*Used for plug-in | |||
*Selenium rectifier | |||
| rowspan="2" | | |||
*Used for plug-in and vertical amplifier heaters | |||
*SN 6580 up Fused | |||
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;" | |||
| SN 3763 up | |||
*Used for plug-in and vertical amplifier heaters | |||
*Minor design changes from earlier SN | |||
<!-- End Section --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2"| Vertical amplifier | |||
grid/plate line fuses | |||
| SN up to 3762: No Fuse | |||
| rowspan="2" | Fused | |||
|- | |||
| SN 3763 up: Added F1210, F1260, F1285 | |||
<!-- End Section --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;" | |||
! rowspan="2"| Delay Relay | |||
| rowspan="2"| [[6NO45]] | |||
*Heater power from unregulated 18 V DC | |||
* 33 Ω dropping resistor. | |||
| SN up to 9179 | |||
*[[6NO45]] | |||
*Heater power from unregulated 18 V DC | |||
* 33 Ω dropping resistor. | |||
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;" | |||
| SN 9180 up | |||
*[[18NO30]] | |||
*Heater power from unregulated 18 V DC | |||
|- | |||
<!-- End Section --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|- | |||
! Trace Rotation | |||
| Not present | |||
| SN 9000 up: Added trace rotation | |||
|- | |||
<!-- End Section --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|-style="background-color:#ffffff;" | |||
! Final vertical power amp | |||
| [[6939]]/AX193/7699 dual tetrode | |||
| 2 × [[7788]] Pentode | |||
|- | |||
<!-- End Section --> | |||
<!-- Start section --> | |||
|- | |||
! Power supply Mod | |||
| None | |||
| SN 9250 up: Main relay K601-4 relocated [http://web.archive.org/web/20170727004536/http://www.reprise.com/host/tektronix/reference/581_relay.asp Details] | |||
|- | |||
<!-- End Section --> | |||
! colspan="3" |SN Range not applicable for rack-mount models | |||
|- | |||
|} | |||
==Prices== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" | | |||
| colspan="2" align="center" | 585 | |||
| colspan="5" align="center" | 585A | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="2" | Year | |||
! 1959 | |||
! 1962 | |||
! 1963 | |||
! 1965 | |||
! 1969 | |||
! 1971* | |||
! 1972* | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2"| mainframe only | |||
| Catalog Price | |||
|align=right| $1,675 | |||
|align=right| $1,725 | |||
|align=right| $1,725 | |||
|align=right| $1,725 | |||
|align=right| $1,800 | |||
|align=right| $2,400 | |||
|align=right| $2,600 | |||
|- | |||
| In 2023 Dollars | |||
|align=right| $17,200 | |||
|align=right| $17,600 | |||
|align=right| $17,300 | |||
|align=right| $16,800 | |||
|align=right| $15,100 | |||
|align=right| $18,200 | |||
|align=right| $19,100 | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2"| mainframe+[[80]]+[[P80]] | |||
| Catalog Price | |||
|align=right| $1,825 | |||
|align=right| $1,875 | |||
|align=right| $1,975 | |||
|- | |||
| In 2023 Dollars | |||
|align=right| $19,300 | |||
|align=right| $19,100 | |||
|align=right| $19,900 | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2"| mainframe+[[82]] | |||
| Catalog Price | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|align=right| $2,375 | |||
|align=right| $2,575 | |||
|align=right| $3,325 | |||
|align=right| $3,600 | |||
|- | |||
| In 2023 Dollars | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|align=right| $23,200 | |||
|align=right| $21,600 | |||
|align=right| $25,300 | |||
|align=right| $26,500 | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2"| mainframe+[[86]]+[[P6008]] | |||
| Catalog Price | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|align=right| $2,075 | |||
|align=right| $2,185 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| In 2023 Dollars | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|align=right| $20,300 | |||
|align=right| $18,300 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|} | |||
:''* "limited demand" instrument'' | |||
==Pictures== | |||
===585 non-A=== | |||
<gallery> | |||
Tek-585-81-ca-front.jpg | 585 with [[81|Type 81 Adapter]] and [[CA|Type CA plug-in]] | |||
Tek-585-80.jpg | 585 with [[80|Type 80 plug-in]] | |||
Tek-585-82.jpg | 585 with [[82|Type 82 plug-in]] | |||
Tek 585 with 82.jpg | 585 with [[82|Type 82 plug-in]] | |||
Tek 585 non A Field Modification 040-275 label.jpg | Front panel label indicating Field Modification 040-275 is applied | |||
</gallery> | |||
===585 non-A Internals=== | |||
<gallery> | |||
Tek585-bottom.jpg | 585 bottom view (with [[81|Type 81 Adapter]] and [[CA|Type CA plug-in]]) | |||
Tek585-dl-driver-1.jpg | Distributed delay line driver amplifier | |||
Tek585-dl-driver-bot.jpg | Distributed delay line driver amplifier (bottom). Plug-in interface connector to the left. | |||
Tek585-left-1.jpg | 585 left side | |||
Tek585-vert-1.jpg | Vertical amplifier (post-delay 5-stage distributed amplifier). Pre-SN 2585 fixed termination. | |||
Tek585-vert-2.jpg | Vertical amplifier (5-stage dist amp, power output stage) | |||
Tek585-rect.jpg | Rectifiers | |||
Tek585-tb-a.jpg | Time Base A | |||
Tek585-top-1.jpg | 585 top view | |||
Tek585-top-rear.jpg | 585 rear from above, handle and HV cover removed | |||
585 HV - Black Beauty.jpg| "[[Bumble Bee capacitors|Black Beauty]]" capacitors (leaky!) in original HV circuit | |||
585 HV - recapped.jpg | HV circuit re-capped with modern ceramic 10 nF / 3 kV caps | |||
Tek-585-psu-2.jpg | [[6080]] (large tube) and [[12B4]] pass elements in PSU | |||
585-distamp-operating.jpg| 585 delay line driver distributed amplifier in operation | |||
585-psu-operating.jpg | 585 power supply (center) and timebase B (left) in operation | |||
585-150ns-100hz.jpg | 585 displaying a ~150 ns pulse at 100 Hz repetition rate at fastest timebase setting | |||
585_cyclist.jpg | Cyclist cartoon in horizontal amplifier schematic | |||
Tek 585 lvps.png | Tektronix 585 Low Voltage Power Supply Schematic | |||
</gallery> | |||
===585A=== | |||
<gallery> | |||
Tek 585a trace.jpg | |||
585a_front.jpg | 585A with [[82]] | |||
Tek 585 upgraded to 585a.jpg | 585 with TRIGGER SOURCE switch upgraded to 585A design | |||
Wellenkino 585a 2.jpg | |||
Wellenkino 585A.jpg | |||
Tek 585a sine trace.jpg | |||
Tek 585a square trace.jpg | |||
Tek 585a with 81a and hickok plugin.jpg | 585A with [[81|81A]] and Hickok plug-in | |||
Tek 585a handbook.jpg | |||
</gallery> | |||
===585A Internals=== | |||
<gallery> | |||
Tek 585a right internal on cart.jpg | 585A on cart | |||
585a_delay1.jpg | 585A delay line | |||
585_delay2.jpg | 585A delay line | |||
585_delay3.jpg | 585A delay line | |||
585a_trig.jpg | 585A trigger circuit | |||
585a_trig_td2.jpg | White plastic clip holds tunnel diode for triggering | |||
585a_door_open.jpg | Inside view shows regulator tubes | |||
585a_dist_vert amp.jpg | Distributed vertical amplifier | |||
T580_CRT.JPG | [[T581]]0P31 distributed deflection plates | |||
Tek_154-0479-00-dDePlates.jpeg | [[T581]]0P31 distributed deflection plates | |||
Tek 58x direct crt.png | Direct Connection to CRT (from 1964 Service Scope) | |||
</gallery> | |||
===RM585A=== | |||
<gallery> | |||
Rm 585a.jpg|RM-585A | |||
Tek_RM585A-Front.jpeg | RM585A - ALT/DLYD' Trigger | |||
Tek_RM585A-Back.jpeg | RM585A - Rear | |||
</gallery> | |||
===RM585A Internals=== | |||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Tek_RM585A_Int_LHSjpeg.jpeg | RM585A Internal LHS | |||
Tek_RM585A_Int_Underside.jpeg | RM585A Internal underside | |||
Tek_RM585A_Int_Underside-TimeBaseOpen.jpeg | RM585A Internal Underside - Timebase door open | |||
Tek_RM585A_Int_Top-Dline-open.jpeg | RM585A Top - Internal- Delay line door open | |||
Tek_RM585A_Int_Top.jpeg | RM585A - Internal top | |||
Tek_RM585A_Int_RHS.jpeg | RM585A Internal RHS | |||
Tek_RM585A_Int_HV.jpeg | RM585A Internal HV Section | |||
Tek_RM585A_Int_Rear.jpeg | RM585A Internal - Rear | |||
Tek_585A_VOutput-Tubes.jpeg | RM585A Internal - Vamp - Output [[7788]] pair | |||
RM585A_12.6V-Recrifier.jpeg | 12.6 V rail silicon diode rectifier with fuse | |||
RM585A_T44-Trigger-Transformer.jpeg | T44 - Trigger coupling transformer (Tunnel diode trigger) | |||
RM585A_12.6V-regulator.jpeg | 12.6 V rail regulator transistors | |||
RM585A_18V-delayrelay.jpeg | Delay relay 18NO30T | |||
Tek_585A_Trigger-Amp-transistor.jpeg | Trigger amplifier transistor 2N2048 | |||
Tek_585A_Vamp-Plate-Line-Termination.jpeg | Plate line termination (post deflection plates) | |||
Tek_585A_T1046-transformer.jpeg | T1046 toroid transformer in V-amp, used as phase correction/common mode choke | |||
Tek_585A_Grid_Line.jpeg | Tek 585A V-amp grid line (Delay Line driver stage) | |||
Tek_585A_Plate_Line.jpeg | Tek 585A plate line (partial, delay Line driver stage) | |||
Tek_585A_Tunnel-trig.jpeg | Tunnel diode in A-trigger (closeup) | |||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
==Components== | |||
{{Parts|585}} | |||
{{Parts|585A}} | |||
{{Plugins|580-series scopes}} | |||
[[Category:580 series scopes]] |
Latest revision as of 07:00, 7 February 2024
The Tektronix 585 is a 100 MHz 580-Series scope that Tektronix introduced in 1959. It was designed by John Gates. The 581 is the same with a single timebase. The 585A facelift model was introduced in 1963 and discontinued after 1971.
The 58x series were the first Tek scopes with distributed deflection plates, the first Tek scopes to use a cross-wound continuous delay line, and the last with a distributed amplifier.
At 100 MHz (down-rated to 95 MHz in 1962 and 85 MHz for the 585A in 1963) with the Type 80 plug-in and up to 85 MHz with the dual-channel Type 82, they were the highest-speed general purpose scopes of Tek's tube scope era. (The 1 GHz 519 was specialized with no vertical amplifier.)
The 585's front panel layout is almost identical to the 545A that came out at the same time. The 585 also shares internal construction and circuits such as the power supply with the 535/545 line of scopes.
Key Specifications
Rise time | 3.5 ns with Type 80 plugin and P80 probe |
---|---|
Timebase A | 50 ns/Div to 2 s/Div, 1−2−5, variable ×2.5, magnifier ×5, single sweep; X input |
Timebase B | 2 μs/Div to 1 s/Div, 1−2−5, can delay timebase A by 1 μs to 10 s |
CRT | T581, distributed vertical deflection plates, 10 kV acceleration |
Outputs | A Sawtooth, A Gate, B Gate, Calibrator (0.2 mV to 100 Vp-p, 1−2−5) |
Power | 107−127 or 214−234 VAC, 50-60 Hz, 890 VA / 710 W |
Dimensions | (W/L/H) 330×610×432 mm³ (13"×24"×17") |
585A differences
The 585A uses a tunnel-diode trigger circuit (see below), adds HF Sync and AC LF reject modes to the timebase A trigger selector, and adds a trace rotation coil.
Links
- Tek 585 @ radiomuseum.org
- Inside a Tek 585A @ YouTube
History
Later on there was another special CRT designed with distributed vertical deflection for the 100 Megahertz 580 (well almost 100 MHz).
The 580 was the first, at least at Tek, to use a cross wound continuous signal delay line.
The 580 used a similar horizontal system lifted from the 530s which was too slow and [had] insufficient writing rate.
The active probe and plug in system left a lot to be desired. I wasn’t very proud of the 580 design as it was too compromised.
Internals
Plug-in Interface
The 585 uses 580-series plug-ins which look like letter-series and 1-series plug-ins but are electrically different. The main difference is the impedance of the signal that passes through the interface from the plug-in to the mainframe.
In 530/540/550-series scopes, the plug-in expects the mainframe to be a high impedance load, driving tube grids in the mainframe. The 580 Series plug-in interface, on the other hand, presents a differential transmission line input with an impedance of 93 Ω per side, going into the first distributed amplifier stage. The other end of this transmission line is returned to the plug-in for termination and biasing. The pin-out of the interface connector is also different, the 580-series pin-out being essentially flipped 180° from its 530/540/550 series counterparts (Signal Out is between pins 14 and 16 as opposed to between pins 1 and 3, etc.)
The Type 81 adapter allows the use of letter-series and 1-series plug-ins in a 585.
Trigger Circuit
The original 585 (up to serial number 1070) has an "A" trigger circuit that has a differential trigger amplifier made of a pair of 6EW6 miniature pentodes, followed by a Schmitt trigger made of a pair of miniature dual triode tubes.
Starting at serial number 1071 (and sometimes retrofitted to earlier instruments), the dual-triode Schmitt trigger circuit was replaced by an STD615 10 mA tunnel diode AC-coupled to the base-emitter junction of an OC171 germanium PNP transistor as a pulse amplifier.
The slower "B" timebase uses a Schmitt trigger circuit.
Vertical Signal Path
Like the 545, 551, and 555, the 585 uses two distributed amplifiers in the vertical signal path, one with seven differential 6DJ8 stages driving a helically-wound, differential delay line, followed by a five-stage differential distributed driver amplifier and a 7699 or 6939 dual tetrode power stage driving the CRT.
Unlike the other 500-series scopes, the 585 uses a CRT with distributed vertical deflection plates, the T581, enabling it to have both fast rise time and high sensitivity (~5 V/cm vertically), albeit at the cost of limiting vertical deflection to slightly over 4 cm. Total acceleration voltage is 10 kV.
Several improvements were published for the 585 circuitry, including the enhanced trigger circuit. If all of those changes are applied to a 585, it is essentially a 585A.
After serial number 2585, the back termination of the final distributed amplifier output was made adjustable. The manual says this (field-installable) modification (040-275) is "required for proper operation of plug-ins with numbers above Type 81". Non-A instruments with this termination have a front panel label reading "standardized vertical".
Power Supply
The 585 power supply is similar to other Tek scopes of the era such as the 549. A linear regulator with a 5651 reference tube, a 12AX7/6AU6 error amplifier and three parallel 12B4 series pass tubes produces −150 V. This is the only adjustable rail, all other regulated voltages are referenced to it. The +100 V and +350 V regulators use half a 6080 each as the pass element, the +225 V two. In the +500 V path, a 12B4 performs this function. The unregulated +325 V input to the 225 V regulator is used to supply the HV oscillator, a 6AU5.
A transistor-based regulator supplies a +12.6 V heater voltage to the plug-in.
A 6NO45 delay relay controls a multi-contact relay to switch supply voltages on only after the tubes are warmed up. When the main relay engages, the delay relay is cut out so it will be ready to delay again even after a quick interrupt in power input.
The 12.6 V power supply is referenced to the +100 V regulated output. Since +100 V is not available during the warm-up period, an unregulated +100 V (~+180 V) is fed as the reference to the 12.6 V power supply during the warm-up period, then cut out by the multi-contact relay post warmup.
The 585 contains a 53°C (128°F) thermal cutoff.
The power transformer, T601, is Tektronix part number 120-0141-00.
Semiconductors
The 585 uses semiconductor diodes as rectifiers and germanium transistors in the 12.6 V power supply, and except for unmodified instruments before SN 1070, a tunnel diode and another germanium transistor in the time base A trigger circuit.
Rackmount Versions
Rackmount versions were also made, the RM585 and RM585A.
Circuit Variants
Some changes across 585 and 585A | ||
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A-Trigger | SN up to 1070 |
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SN 1071 up
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Sweep Generator | Standard | SN 120000 up
D152/252 added to 6AL5 disconnect diodes |
12.6 V Power | SN up to 3762
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SN 3763 up
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Vertical amplifier
grid/plate line fuses |
SN up to 3762: No Fuse | Fused |
SN 3763 up: Added F1210, F1260, F1285 | ||
Delay Relay | 6NO45
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SN up to 9179
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SN 9180 up
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Trace Rotation | Not present | SN 9000 up: Added trace rotation |
Final vertical power amp | 6939/AX193/7699 dual tetrode | 2 × 7788 Pentode |
Power supply Mod | None | SN 9250 up: Main relay K601-4 relocated Details |
SN Range not applicable for rack-mount models |
Prices
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Year | 1959 | 1962 | 1963 | 1965 | 1969 | 1971* | 1972* | |
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mainframe only | Catalog Price | $1,675 | $1,725 | $1,725 | $1,725 | $1,800 | $2,400 | $2,600 |
In 2023 Dollars | $17,200 | $17,600 | $17,300 | $16,800 | $15,100 | $18,200 | $19,100 | |
mainframe+80+P80 | Catalog Price | $1,825 | $1,875 | $1,975 | ||||
In 2023 Dollars | $19,300 | $19,100 | $19,900 | |||||
mainframe+82 | Catalog Price | $2,375 | $2,575 | $3,325 | $3,600 | |||
In 2023 Dollars | $23,200 | $21,600 | $25,300 | $26,500 | ||||
mainframe+86+P6008 | Catalog Price | $2,075 | $2,185 | |||||
In 2023 Dollars | $20,300 | $18,300 |
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Pictures
585 non-A
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585 with Type 81 Adapter and Type CA plug-in
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585 with Type 80 plug-in
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585 with Type 82 plug-in
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585 with Type 82 plug-in
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Front panel label indicating Field Modification 040-275 is applied
585 non-A Internals
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585 bottom view (with Type 81 Adapter and Type CA plug-in)
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Distributed delay line driver amplifier
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Distributed delay line driver amplifier (bottom). Plug-in interface connector to the left.
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585 left side
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Vertical amplifier (post-delay 5-stage distributed amplifier). Pre-SN 2585 fixed termination.
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Vertical amplifier (5-stage dist amp, power output stage)
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Rectifiers
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Time Base A
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585 top view
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585 rear from above, handle and HV cover removed
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"Black Beauty" capacitors (leaky!) in original HV circuit
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HV circuit re-capped with modern ceramic 10 nF / 3 kV caps
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585 delay line driver distributed amplifier in operation
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585 power supply (center) and timebase B (left) in operation
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585 displaying a ~150 ns pulse at 100 Hz repetition rate at fastest timebase setting
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Cyclist cartoon in horizontal amplifier schematic
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Tektronix 585 Low Voltage Power Supply Schematic
585A
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585A with 82
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585 with TRIGGER SOURCE switch upgraded to 585A design
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585A with 81A and Hickok plug-in
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585A Internals
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585A on cart
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585A delay line
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585A delay line
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585A delay line
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585A trigger circuit
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White plastic clip holds tunnel diode for triggering
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Inside view shows regulator tubes
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Distributed vertical amplifier
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T5810P31 distributed deflection plates
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T5810P31 distributed deflection plates
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Direct Connection to CRT (from 1964 Service Scope)
RM585A
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RM-585A
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RM585A - ALT/DLYD' Trigger
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RM585A - Rear
RM585A Internals
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RM585A Internal LHS
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RM585A Internal underside
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RM585A Internal Underside - Timebase door open
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RM585A Top - Internal- Delay line door open
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RM585A - Internal top
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RM585A Internal RHS
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RM585A Internal HV Section
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RM585A Internal - Rear
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RM585A Internal - Vamp - Output 7788 pair
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12.6 V rail silicon diode rectifier with fuse
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T44 - Trigger coupling transformer (Tunnel diode trigger)
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12.6 V rail regulator transistors
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Delay relay 18NO30T
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Trigger amplifier transistor 2N2048
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Plate line termination (post deflection plates)
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T1046 toroid transformer in V-amp, used as phase correction/common mode choke
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Tek 585A V-amp grid line (Delay Line driver stage)
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Tek 585A plate line (partial, delay Line driver stage)
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Tunnel diode in A-trigger (closeup)
Components
Some Parts Used in the 585
Part | Part Number(s) | Class | Description | Used in |
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120-0141-00 | 120-0141-00 | Discrete component | power transformer | 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
12AU6 | 154-0040-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | RF pentode | 81 • 112 • 1L10 • 1L20 • 1L60 • 3L10 • 512 • 556 • 575 • 545 • 547 • 549 • 581 • 585 • A • B • C • G • K • H • L • ML • M • N • O • R • S • Z |
12AU7 | 154-041 • 154-0041-00 • 154-0287-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual medium-μ triode | 104 • 104A • 122 • 160 • 161 • 162 • 181 • 190 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 3C66 • 502 • 502A • 507 • 511A • 512 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 524 • 526 • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 547 • 549 • 555 • 561 • 564 • 570 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • C • D • E • N • Q • Hickok 1825 |
12AX7 | 154-043 • 154-0043-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual triode | 3C66 • 513 • 524 • 531 • 531A • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 546 • 547 • 549 • 555 • 570 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • E • Q • Hickok 1825 • Keithley 610 |
12B4 | 154-044 • 154-0044-00 | Vacuum Tube (Triode) | power triode | 126 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 502 • 502A • 524 • 526 • 541 • 541A • 535 • 535A • 545 • 545A • 546 • 547 • 570 • 549 • 551 • 555 • 513 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • Keithley 610 |
18NO30 | Discrete component | 18 V, 30-second delay relay | 581 • 585 | |
5642 | 154-0051-00 • 154-0079-00 | Vacuum Tube (Diode) | directly-heated high-voltage rectifier | 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 360 • 453 • 502 • 502A • 503 • 504 • 506 • 513 • 515 • 516 • 524 • 529 • RM529 • 533 • 533A • 535 • 536 • 543 • 543A • 543B • 545 • 545A • 545B • 547 • 551 • 555 • 556 • 560 • 561 • 561A • 561S • 564 • 567 • 570 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 647 • 647A |
5651 | 154-052 • 154-0052-00 • 154-0288-00 | Gas Discharge Tube (Voltage regulator) | 87 V voltage reference | 128 • 160 • 310 • 310A • 502 • 503 • 504 • 511A • 512 • 516 • 517 • 524 • 526 • 531 • 531A • 535 • 536 • 541 • 541A • 543 • 543A • 543B • 545 • 545A • 545B • 570 • 549 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
6080 | 154-0056-00 • 154-0315-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual power triode | 132 • 160 • 316 • 317 • 516 • 535 • 535A • RM35A • 541 • 541A • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 546 • 547 • 549 • 565 • 567 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
6939 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Tetrode) | dual tetrode | 581 • 585 | |
6AL5 | 154-016 • 154-0016-00 • 154-0038-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Diode) | high-perveance dual diode | 163 • 181 • 190 • 1M1 • 310 • 310A • 315 • 316 • 317 • 3B1 • 3B1S • 3B2 • 3B3 • 3B5 • 502 • 502A • 503 • 511 • 511A • 512 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 524 • 526 • 535 • 535A • 545 • 545A • 549 • 551 • 565 • 570 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • C • T • Telequipment D52 • Telequipment D56 • Telequipment S52 |
6AU5 | 154-021 • 154-0021-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | 10 W beam power pentode | 507 • 513 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 531 • 535 • 541 • 535 • 545 • 547 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
6AU6 | 154-0022-00 • 157-0073-00 • 157-0059-00 • 154-0284-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | RF pentode | 107 • 160 • 181 • 190 • 60 • 2A60 • 72 • 3A72 • 3C66 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 360 • 502 • 502A • 506 • 511 • 511A • 512 • 513 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 524 • 526 • 529 • RM529 • 531 • 531A • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 546 • 547 • 549 • 555 • 561 • 561A • 561S • 564 • 565 • 567 • 570 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 80 • C • CA • Q |
6CL6 | 154-031 • 154-0031-00 • 154-0286-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | 7.5 W power pentode | 132 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 515 • 524 • 525 • 531 • 535 • 535A • 545 • 545A • 545B • 549 • 570 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 3A74 |
6CY5 | 154-0207-00 | Vacuum Tube (Tetrode) | tetrode | 581 • 585 • 581A • 585A |
6DJ8 | 154-0187-00 • 154-0305-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual triode | 067-506 • 111 • 132 • 161 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 502 • 502A • 503 • 504 • 506 • 515 • 516 • 519 • 526 • 529 • RM529 • 533 • 535 • 536 • 543 • 544 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 546 • 547 • 549 • 555 • 556 • 561A • 561S • 564 • 565 • 567 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 661 • 1A4 • 1S1 • 60 • 2A60 • 63 • 2A63 • 67 • 2B67 • 3A1 • 3A1S • 3A2 • 3A3 • 3A6 • 3A7 • 72 • 3A72 • 75 • 3A75 • 4S2 • 51 • 3B1 • 3B1S • 3B2 • 3B3 • 3B4 • 3M1 • 3S76 • 3T77 • 3T77A • 9A1 • 9A2 • 1121 • 80 • 81 • 82 • 86 • B • O • W • Z • Telequipment D56 • Telequipment S32A • Telequipment D52 • S-311 • Telequipment TD51 • Telequipment S52 • Telequipment S51 • Telequipment Type A • TU-4 |
6EW6 | 154-0212-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | pentode | 106 • 132 • 360 • 51 • 527 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 3T77 • 3T77A |
6NO45 | Discrete component | 6.3 V / 500 mA, 45-second delay relay | 581 • 585 | |
7699 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Tetrode) | dual tetrode | 581 • 585 | |
NE-2 | 150-002 • 150-0002-00 | Gas Discharge Tube (neon lamp) | Neon lamp | 511 • 511A • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 545A • TU-4 |
OC171 | 152-0102-00 | Discrete component | Germanium PNP transistor | 581 • 585 |
STD615 | 152-0102-00 | Discrete component | 10 mA, 28 pF germanium tunnel diode | 581 • 585 • TU-5 |
T581 | 154-0224-00 • 154-0228-00 • 154-0229-00 • 154-0230-00 • 154-0297-00 • 154-0354-00 • 154-0396-00 • 154-0435-00 • 154-0445-00 • 154-0446-00 • 154-0479-00 • 154-0479-01 • 154-0479-02 | CRT | CRT | 581 • 585 |
Some Parts Used in the 585A
Part | Part Number(s) | Class | Description | Used in |
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120-0141-00 | 120-0141-00 | Discrete component | power transformer | 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
12AU7 | 154-041 • 154-0041-00 • 154-0287-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual medium-μ triode | 104 • 104A • 122 • 160 • 161 • 162 • 181 • 190 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 3C66 • 502 • 502A • 507 • 511A • 512 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 524 • 526 • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 547 • 549 • 555 • 561 • 564 • 570 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • C • D • E • N • Q • Hickok 1825 |
12AX7 | 154-043 • 154-0043-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual triode | 3C66 • 513 • 524 • 531 • 531A • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 546 • 547 • 549 • 555 • 570 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • E • Q • Hickok 1825 • Keithley 610 |
12B4 | 154-044 • 154-0044-00 | Vacuum Tube (Triode) | power triode | 126 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 502 • 502A • 524 • 526 • 541 • 541A • 535 • 535A • 545 • 545A • 546 • 547 • 570 • 549 • 551 • 555 • 513 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • Keithley 610 |
1N3848 | 152-0140-00 | Discrete component | 10 mA, 25 pF tunnel diode | 581A • 585A • RM585A • 7B52 • S-53 |
2N2048 | 151-076 • 151-0076-00 | Discrete component | germanium PNP switching transistor | 585A |
5642 | 154-0051-00 • 154-0079-00 | Vacuum Tube (Diode) | directly-heated high-voltage rectifier | 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 360 • 453 • 502 • 502A • 503 • 504 • 506 • 513 • 515 • 516 • 524 • 529 • RM529 • 533 • 533A • 535 • 536 • 543 • 543A • 543B • 545 • 545A • 545B • 547 • 551 • 555 • 556 • 560 • 561 • 561A • 561S • 564 • 567 • 570 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 647 • 647A |
5651 | 154-052 • 154-0052-00 • 154-0288-00 | Gas Discharge Tube (Voltage regulator) | 87 V voltage reference | 128 • 160 • 310 • 310A • 502 • 503 • 504 • 511A • 512 • 516 • 517 • 524 • 526 • 531 • 531A • 535 • 536 • 541 • 541A • 543 • 543A • 543B • 545 • 545A • 545B • 570 • 549 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
6080 | 154-0056-00 • 154-0315-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual power triode | 132 • 160 • 316 • 317 • 516 • 535 • 535A • RM35A • 541 • 541A • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 546 • 547 • 549 • 565 • 567 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
6AL5 | 154-016 • 154-0016-00 • 154-0038-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Diode) | high-perveance dual diode | 163 • 181 • 190 • 1M1 • 310 • 310A • 315 • 316 • 317 • 3B1 • 3B1S • 3B2 • 3B3 • 3B5 • 502 • 502A • 503 • 511 • 511A • 512 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 524 • 526 • 535 • 535A • 545 • 545A • 549 • 551 • 565 • 570 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • C • T • Telequipment D52 • Telequipment D56 • Telequipment S52 |
6AU5 | 154-021 • 154-0021-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | 10 W beam power pentode | 507 • 513 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 531 • 535 • 541 • 535 • 545 • 547 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A |
6AU6 | 154-0022-00 • 157-0073-00 • 157-0059-00 • 154-0284-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | RF pentode | 107 • 160 • 181 • 190 • 60 • 2A60 • 72 • 3A72 • 3C66 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 360 • 502 • 502A • 506 • 511 • 511A • 512 • 513 • 516 • 517 • 517A • 524 • 526 • 529 • RM529 • 531 • 531A • 535 • 536 • 545 • 545A • 546 • 547 • 549 • 555 • 561 • 561A • 561S • 564 • 565 • 567 • 570 • 575 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 80 • C • CA • Q |
6CL6 | 154-031 • 154-0031-00 • 154-0286-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | 7.5 W power pentode | 132 • 310 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 515 • 524 • 525 • 531 • 535 • 535A • 545 • 545A • 545B • 549 • 570 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 3A74 |
6CY5 | 154-0207-00 | Vacuum Tube (Tetrode) | tetrode | 581 • 585 • 581A • 585A |
6DJ8 | 154-0187-00 • 154-0305-00 | Vacuum Tube (Dual Triode) | dual triode | 067-506 • 111 • 132 • 161 • 310A • 316 • 317 • 502 • 502A • 503 • 504 • 506 • 515 • 516 • 519 • 526 • 529 • RM529 • 533 • 535 • 536 • 543 • 544 • 545 • 545A • 545B • 546 • 547 • 549 • 555 • 556 • 561A • 561S • 564 • 565 • 567 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 661 • 1A4 • 1S1 • 60 • 2A60 • 63 • 2A63 • 67 • 2B67 • 3A1 • 3A1S • 3A2 • 3A3 • 3A6 • 3A7 • 72 • 3A72 • 75 • 3A75 • 4S2 • 51 • 3B1 • 3B1S • 3B2 • 3B3 • 3B4 • 3M1 • 3S76 • 3T77 • 3T77A • 9A1 • 9A2 • 1121 • 80 • 81 • 82 • 86 • B • O • W • Z • Telequipment D56 • Telequipment S32A • Telequipment D52 • S-311 • Telequipment TD51 • Telequipment S52 • Telequipment S51 • Telequipment Type A • TU-4 |
6EW6 | 154-0212-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | pentode | 106 • 132 • 360 • 51 • 527 • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 3T77 • 3T77A |
7788 | 154-0420-00 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | long life, shock and vibration resistant pentode | 529 • RM529 • 581A • 585A • RM581 • RM585 • Telequipment D56 • 545B |
8426 | Vacuum Tube (Pentode) | RF pentode | O • 545A • 547 • 549 • 581A • 585A | |
NE-2 | 150-002 • 150-0002-00 | Gas Discharge Tube (neon lamp) | Neon lamp | 511 • 511A • 581 • 581A • 585 • 585A • 545A • TU-4 |
SMTD995 | 152-0140-01 | Discrete component | 10 mA, 8 pF tunnel diode | 1S1 • 1S2 • 1502 • 21A • 22A • 3T5 • 3T6 • 475 • 475A • 475M • 544 • R544 • 546 • RM546 • 547 • RM547 • 556 • R556 • 581A • 585A • RM585 • 7B52 • 7B53N • 7B70 • 7B71 • 7D10 • 7D11 • 7T11 • 7T11A • R7912 • S-51 • S-52 • TU-5 • 067-0572-00 • 067-0572-01 • 067-0681-00 |
T5810 | 154-0479-00 • 154-0479-01 • 154-0479-02 | CRT | CRT | 581A • 585A |
Some plug-ins / accessories compatible with 580-series scopes
Page | Manufacturer | Model | Description | Introduced | Discontinued |
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80 | Tektronix | 80 | vertical amplifier | 1959 | (?) |
81 | Tektronix | Type 81 | plug-in adapter | 1960 | 1972 |
82 | Tektronix | 82 | 85 MHz dual-trace amplifier | 1962 | 1972 |
84 | Tektronix | 84 | calibration fixture | 1962 | (?) |
86 | Tektronix | 86 | vertical amplifier | 1963 | 1972 |
TU-3 | Tektronix | calibration fixture | (?) | (?) |